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re: LSUS Online MBA Reviews
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:41 pm to GeauxUF
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:41 pm to GeauxUF
Geaux and Get, thanks for the feedback. Sometimes I like to get a sanity check or maybe walked off a ledge.
Most of the downsides Geaux mentioned played into my decision to not attend locally in the long run, but are very manageable in the short run. Getting admitted as a "visiting student" is much easier, so still don't have to mess with GRE et al. (Geaux - would be going to Augusta State U)
FIN 701 is solidly on my LSUS list that I'm excited about taking.
ISDS 710 is part of my concentration, and yes... have already completed HCAD so I'm pretty locked in since that class won't even count as an elective in the general MBA. I'm likely get it replaced with FIN 740. Even if I can get an equivalency class locally to replace 710 (which does not appear to be the case) FIN740 looks like it would be extremely educational.
That really just left the MKT and MADM -- and mostly I was hesitant about MKT. If the class includes strong content, I'll probably feel okay about investing the time.
I don't think I'll do Meeks because of the unpredictable nature of my work hours, often times putting in 60hrs Mon-Thur. Would not be fair to team members on a class project to not be available until Friday at the earliest for any kind of meaningful coordination... and not able to submit anything to them until Saturday.
So thanks to your thoughts, I at least feel better about the MKT/MADM760. Still undecided about course of action, but I have time to knock it around a bit.
Most of the downsides Geaux mentioned played into my decision to not attend locally in the long run, but are very manageable in the short run. Getting admitted as a "visiting student" is much easier, so still don't have to mess with GRE et al. (Geaux - would be going to Augusta State U)
FIN 701 is solidly on my LSUS list that I'm excited about taking.
ISDS 710 is part of my concentration, and yes... have already completed HCAD so I'm pretty locked in since that class won't even count as an elective in the general MBA. I'm likely get it replaced with FIN 740. Even if I can get an equivalency class locally to replace 710 (which does not appear to be the case) FIN740 looks like it would be extremely educational.
That really just left the MKT and MADM -- and mostly I was hesitant about MKT. If the class includes strong content, I'll probably feel okay about investing the time.
I don't think I'll do Meeks because of the unpredictable nature of my work hours, often times putting in 60hrs Mon-Thur. Would not be fair to team members on a class project to not be available until Friday at the earliest for any kind of meaningful coordination... and not able to submit anything to them until Saturday.
So thanks to your thoughts, I at least feel better about the MKT/MADM760. Still undecided about course of action, but I have time to knock it around a bit.
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Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:11 pm to craigp53
i pulled a 90. it was slightly challenging (at least for me) and I really though I got a low B.
I tend to overthink things.
I tend to overthink things.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 11:26 pm to NSAtoMBA
Take MADM 760 with McLaughlin if you want the more predictable workload route. Don't expect any interaction, but the class isn't bad overall. No crazy writing projects, current event papers are short and tied to course topics. Bearing in mind that McLaughlin's course is more of a self-study format like the majority of the MBA program, but I think I finally cracked the code for the tests(in week 6 lol). I struggled a little more than usual with two of the tests, but finally figured out a serious key to doing better on them. Unfortunately, I was distracted by the ISDS 710 crap during the middle of the term, and didn't figure it out sooner. I'll update my review and "A" strategy later. ISDS 710 is a marketing class, not a Data Analytics class. This does not appear to be changing, as they really want to recycle the class for two concentrations. The "R" thing wasn't bad, but it actually screwed the marketing people. Sadly, the current version screws the DA people. I would certainly see if you can do some sort of DA related class to transfer in if possible. I also don't recommend MKT 701 with Darrat.
As a PSA to some of the ISDS 705 people, I'll repost my "A" strategy (not the entire review) for Lin's class since a few people have mentioned it lately:
“A” Strategy – Your grade is based on 3 tests. That’s it. You bomb the tests, and you’re out of luck. I did mention this was a one * class right? That’s because it is easily the easiest (and most useless) course in the program. The material is probably appropriate for the high school level, and the tests are even below that. They are mostly focused on vocabulary/definitions with a smattering of trivia. You’re allowed a single 8.5”x11” double sided note sheet, so make use of it. While you are reading, type out everything you think might be a good vocabulary definition or piece of trivia. Don’t copy and paste, type it out as this should help you remember it better. Once you’re done with all of your typing, set the margins to the absolute minimum, single space, and then set the font to the smallest you can read (you can manually type to select a font smaller than 8). Use a small font like Calibri Light or Arial Narrow. You can edit the notes a little more if you need to make it fit the one page front and back. At this point, you should be able to get at least 70% of the questions correct from memory, another 20% will just be definitions that you hopefully wrote down. The last 10% or so will be trivia, along the lines of a name, date, or acronym. Once again, some of the reading is highly technical and will make zero sense. You don’t need to understand it, just try to find the possible vocabulary words.
As a PSA to some of the ISDS 705 people, I'll repost my "A" strategy (not the entire review) for Lin's class since a few people have mentioned it lately:
“A” Strategy – Your grade is based on 3 tests. That’s it. You bomb the tests, and you’re out of luck. I did mention this was a one * class right? That’s because it is easily the easiest (and most useless) course in the program. The material is probably appropriate for the high school level, and the tests are even below that. They are mostly focused on vocabulary/definitions with a smattering of trivia. You’re allowed a single 8.5”x11” double sided note sheet, so make use of it. While you are reading, type out everything you think might be a good vocabulary definition or piece of trivia. Don’t copy and paste, type it out as this should help you remember it better. Once you’re done with all of your typing, set the margins to the absolute minimum, single space, and then set the font to the smallest you can read (you can manually type to select a font smaller than 8). Use a small font like Calibri Light or Arial Narrow. You can edit the notes a little more if you need to make it fit the one page front and back. At this point, you should be able to get at least 70% of the questions correct from memory, another 20% will just be definitions that you hopefully wrote down. The last 10% or so will be trivia, along the lines of a name, date, or acronym. Once again, some of the reading is highly technical and will make zero sense. You don’t need to understand it, just try to find the possible vocabulary words.
This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 1:57 am to baroqen
Jumped the gun a bit the first time I posted my MADM 760 review, but it's week 7 now and I doubt there will be any surprises or that I will have any additional revelations. So for those looking:
MADM 760 – McLaughlin
In one phrase – “Almost great!”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * * *
Comments – This is what MKT 701 could be when it grows up. MADM seems to have the opposite issue of MKT 701 in that pretty much all the professors come recommended, as opposed to MKT 701 where none of them are. While interaction is weak in McLaughlin’s (aka practically none), the workload is very balanced from week to week making it easier to plan for. A weekly quiz on 1-2 chapters, 6 discussion posts with multiple questions to respond to and two responses each (weeks 1-6), and a 3 paragraph weekly “current event” paper tied to the course material. A little guidance on word count would be nice, video lectures, a public forum and a bit more interaction would be nicer. The course material is relatively straightforward and the text does a relatively good job explaining the concepts. The quizzes can get very detailed however, and just understanding the macro concepts without (sometimes highly specific) details on how and when they work will make you lose points. This is the main source of “difficulty” for the class, because the writing is pretty straightforward. No fluff writing, no group work, no project, and no mega paper. Only quirk of the course is a slightly odd (to me) requirement to cite the textbook for every current event assignment, not just incorporate the concepts.
“A” Strategy – You need to make your initial post very early (Tuesday) followed by two response posts on two different days making the timeline a bit tight imho. Focus on the discussion post right away, I usually follow up with my first response that same night. Once again, you need to follow the rubric, but it’s also relatively vague. Just write a response for each question, which should probably be about a paragraph each. It probably wouldn’t hurt to throw in a vocabulary word or two from the text for the week. You will also need to read the text early on, because your second writing assignment must be tied to at least one concept from the course material. I recommend trying to tie in several to be safe, and most articles should support this anyway since the weekly topics are pretty closely related. The current event paper also partially prepares you for the quiz. The text is decent with a few topics and examples to assist understanding. However, note that the test questions can get pretty detailed, so you really will need to actually study, as opposed to just reading once. I highly, highly, highly recommend answering the T/F and Multiple Choice questions provided at the end of each chapter. You can review the powerpoint (if you want) right before the test to refresh your memory on those topics but it isn’t enough on its own. For writing, I recommend about a paragraph for each question (3-4 questions) for the discussion posts and 1 – 1.5 pages (3 paragraphs, double spaced, 12 point font) for the current event assignments. Don’t forget to amply cite the text for the current event assignments (don’t just cite the text once). The key for McLaughlin’s class is concise, detailed, and quality writing instead of needless verbosity.
Time Commitment – 10 - 20 hours/week (The low range is enough for an easy B, the high range for an A). A bit repetitive but the predictable nature of the course load is good for managing your schedule. Highly recommended version for those whose time is at a premium, as the other professors appear to have much higher time commitments.
MADM 760 – McLaughlin
In one phrase – “Almost great!”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * * *
Comments – This is what MKT 701 could be when it grows up. MADM seems to have the opposite issue of MKT 701 in that pretty much all the professors come recommended, as opposed to MKT 701 where none of them are. While interaction is weak in McLaughlin’s (aka practically none), the workload is very balanced from week to week making it easier to plan for. A weekly quiz on 1-2 chapters, 6 discussion posts with multiple questions to respond to and two responses each (weeks 1-6), and a 3 paragraph weekly “current event” paper tied to the course material. A little guidance on word count would be nice, video lectures, a public forum and a bit more interaction would be nicer. The course material is relatively straightforward and the text does a relatively good job explaining the concepts. The quizzes can get very detailed however, and just understanding the macro concepts without (sometimes highly specific) details on how and when they work will make you lose points. This is the main source of “difficulty” for the class, because the writing is pretty straightforward. No fluff writing, no group work, no project, and no mega paper. Only quirk of the course is a slightly odd (to me) requirement to cite the textbook for every current event assignment, not just incorporate the concepts.
“A” Strategy – You need to make your initial post very early (Tuesday) followed by two response posts on two different days making the timeline a bit tight imho. Focus on the discussion post right away, I usually follow up with my first response that same night. Once again, you need to follow the rubric, but it’s also relatively vague. Just write a response for each question, which should probably be about a paragraph each. It probably wouldn’t hurt to throw in a vocabulary word or two from the text for the week. You will also need to read the text early on, because your second writing assignment must be tied to at least one concept from the course material. I recommend trying to tie in several to be safe, and most articles should support this anyway since the weekly topics are pretty closely related. The current event paper also partially prepares you for the quiz. The text is decent with a few topics and examples to assist understanding. However, note that the test questions can get pretty detailed, so you really will need to actually study, as opposed to just reading once. I highly, highly, highly recommend answering the T/F and Multiple Choice questions provided at the end of each chapter. You can review the powerpoint (if you want) right before the test to refresh your memory on those topics but it isn’t enough on its own. For writing, I recommend about a paragraph for each question (3-4 questions) for the discussion posts and 1 – 1.5 pages (3 paragraphs, double spaced, 12 point font) for the current event assignments. Don’t forget to amply cite the text for the current event assignments (don’t just cite the text once). The key for McLaughlin’s class is concise, detailed, and quality writing instead of needless verbosity.
Time Commitment – 10 - 20 hours/week (The low range is enough for an easy B, the high range for an A). A bit repetitive but the predictable nature of the course load is good for managing your schedule. Highly recommended version for those whose time is at a premium, as the other professors appear to have much higher time commitments.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 7:04 am to baroqen
I'm hoping Dr. Meeks email is just a scare tactic. Im not done my synthesis paper yet, but he's not helping my anxiety.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 7:27 am to bsramzy
meeks760 people- are you following the synthesis template and filling in each and every section?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:36 am to bsramzy
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I'm hoping Dr. Meeks email is just a scare tactic. Im not done my synthesis paper yet, but he's not helping my anxiety.
Context for those outside of Meeks' class following along: he sent an email this morning emphasizing that the synthesis paper is graded completely differently than previous writing assignments and emphasized his willingness to give zero credit to those that do not perform adequately. Warned those with high grades (many of us here) that slacking on the paper will lead to failure of the paper (and the course).
The anxiety-provoking email isn't something I appreciate, that's for sure. As many have mentioned here though, just make sure the paper is long, properly formatted, uses proper grammar, avoids being a book report or a data dump, and connects everything together, and everything should be fine.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 8:38 am
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:39 am to bsramzy
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meeks760 people- are you following the synthesis template and filling in each and every section?
I have moved several sections around to make the paper flow better for the narrative I'm telling. I am considering removing one or two sections for the same reason, but I haven't decided yet.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:43 am to pineveillj
quote:
aright, how about this combo isds 702 koksal with mkt 701 darat?
I'm going to give this a try this spring as well, let's see how it goes!
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 8:45 am
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:49 am to sernt18
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Whom would you recommend doing ISDS-705 with ? Lin Binshan or Gibbs ?
I just finished taking ISDS 705 with Gibbs and enjoyed it. I highly recommend pairing the class with another course, though. If you have a strong background in Excel, a lot of the class will be repetitive--I found that about 3-5 hours per week was enough for a high A.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:09 am to baroqen
I'm seriously considering just blowing off the last week of ISDS 710. I have a high enough grade that I could skip the last assignment and still get an A.
My only concern is that Darrat is the chairperson or whatever for BGS at LSUS meaning... he's the guy that will send (or not send) invitations for BGS. LSUS being what it is, I've been actually trying hard to ensure I finish with a 4.0 so I can get into BGS and SIE. I know you supposedly only need 3.5 or something, but better safe than sorry.
So my concern is if I blow off the final assignment, I might get "overlooked" for BGS.
My only concern is that Darrat is the chairperson or whatever for BGS at LSUS meaning... he's the guy that will send (or not send) invitations for BGS. LSUS being what it is, I've been actually trying hard to ensure I finish with a 4.0 so I can get into BGS and SIE. I know you supposedly only need 3.5 or something, but better safe than sorry.
So my concern is if I blow off the final assignment, I might get "overlooked" for BGS.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:31 am to baroqen
Meeks grading on the final paper in NOT strict at all.
He actually gave me an extra 20 something points on my grade.
Basically all I did was copy/paste the past writing assignments and connect them somehow.
He doesnt really dig in for grading it.
The fear some of yall have for his class is not warranted.
He actually gave me an extra 20 something points on my grade.
Basically all I did was copy/paste the past writing assignments and connect them somehow.
He doesnt really dig in for grading it.
The fear some of yall have for his class is not warranted.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:41 am to baroqen
quote:
I'm seriously considering just blowing off the last week of ISDS 710. I have a high enough grade that I could skip the last assignment and still get an A.
My only concern is that Darrat is the chairperson or whatever for BGS at LSUS meaning... he's the guy that will send (or not send) invitations for BGS. LSUS being what it is, I've been actually trying hard to ensure I finish with a 4.0 so I can get into BGS and SIE. I know you supposedly only need 3.5 or something, but better safe than sorry.
So my concern is if I blow off the final assignment, I might get "overlooked" for BGS.
It's only 250 words, and no need for a reply this week. It's an easy assignment and wraps up the course. I plan on doing it just to get it done.
Now the "final project"...that's a joke. I'm not even bothering with that.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 10:42 am to Cottonseed
quote:
Meeks grading on the final paper in NOT strict at all.
He actually gave me an extra 20 something points on my grade.
Basically all I did was copy/paste the past writing assignments and connect them somehow.
He doesnt really dig in for grading it.
The fear some of yall have for his class is not warranted.
Like I've said before, his bark is worse than his bite. I'm not overly concerned.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 12/3/18 at 5:30 pm to GeauxUF
GeauxUF- I think I will have to delete some sections too. I just cant make it flow with some of the stuff he has in his template. Its just weird.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:22 pm to bsramzy
Bam! Finished madm 760 Harrison! First course completed after 12 years out of school. A!
I feel good folks.
Now have to make it through the boring isds material before Friday.
I feel good folks.
Now have to make it through the boring isds material before Friday.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 8:49 pm to pineveillj
quote:
Bam! Finished madm 760 Harrison! First course completed after 12 years out of school. A! I feel good folks. Now have to make it through the boring isds material before Friday.
Congrats! I felt the same way after finishing my first after like... 20 years with Shaughnessy's Econ 705! That was a brutal class to start with, I should have begun with a writing class, haha. I paired it with Lin's ISDS 705, which was a really good thing since it was so lame. Because the first 2/3 of the class is so BASIC and also so outdated, most of the "information" was extremely common knowledge. Perhaps terms such as "megabyte" and "gigabyte" weren't so common among the regular population 10-15 years ago, but smartphones have made them ubiquitous, since they're usually one of the primary differentiating factors. Bearing in mind that the book was last updated before the first iPhone was even released... It's a tech-related class... Tech can change so much in a year, that a book written or last updated over 10 years ago should be filed as an "ancient history" book. Moore's law is dead, we now carry "supercomputers" in our pockets, "mobile computing" means something entirely different now, "cloud" no longer just refers to a fluffy white thing in the sky, one of the most advanced AI declared she wanted to kill off the human race (she's changed her mind since then, or perhaps she's learned to lie), and creepy smart speakers record your conversations and text them to random people or laugh out of the blue.
It's a very different technological world, changing by the minute, a decade is practically Jurassic.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:09 pm to Cottonseed
MEEK760 Folks
Do you find that the synthesis paper directions in Moodle, directions on the template and directions on the video say different things? I finished reading and listening to the video and I was confused.
Do you find that the synthesis paper directions in Moodle, directions on the template and directions on the video say different things? I finished reading and listening to the video and I was confused.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:31 am to BeckyBLU
quote:
MEEK760 Folks
Do you find that the synthesis paper directions in Moodle, directions on the template and directions on the video say different things? I finished reading and listening to the video and I was confused.
How so? Follow the template as much as you can/want, write 4000 words +, 11 + references.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:04 am to baroqen
Hmm. I notice McLaughlin now has a section of MADM 701. Anyone ever take it with her? I'm really pretty pleased with the excellent pacing and reasonable course load of her MADM 760, so I'm seriously thinking of taking it with her instead of Heller.
I just don't want to choose her section only to find out it's set up totally different than 760, lol. Unfortunately she isn't interactive, but I frankly don't have a ton of time to waste on a ton of useless writing. Her MADM 760 writing demands appear to be more about quality than quantity... as long as you don't mess up your citations... lol.
I just don't want to choose her section only to find out it's set up totally different than 760, lol. Unfortunately she isn't interactive, but I frankly don't have a ton of time to waste on a ton of useless writing. Her MADM 760 writing demands appear to be more about quality than quantity... as long as you don't mess up your citations... lol.
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