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re: LSUS Online MBA Reviews

Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by baroqen
Member since Jun 2018
234 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:31 pm to
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I would like to say, I am very thankful I took Lin's 705 before it became a "real" class.


It's still not a real class... unless you're an undergrad in the mid-late 90's. Technology changes at such a ferocious pace that textbooks are already 5+ years behind, and he's using a textbook from OVER 10 years ago. One of THE biggest computing rules of the previous few decades, Moore's Law, has been dead for a while now. It doesn't even mention this because it can't. The book was written before Moore's Law collapsed. I don't even think Lin (if he even exists) is aware that Moore's Law is over. Just like the book was written before the iPhone revolutionized mobile computing.

Also, anyone using 8 point font is making a mistake. They should be using 6 point font.

@bsramzy I also didn't have many issues with ProctorU either, but several people did. Many find it awkward simply knowing that someone is WATCHING YOU the entire time. I just wanted to blow through my questions and get it over with before I started to forget the things I crammed in 30 minutes prior. The extremely long setup (compared to Proctorio) was kind of annoying and one of the proctors was an impatient jerk. He phrased things oddly and got upset when I didn't understand what the hell he was asking for.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 8:07 pm
Posted by baroqen
Member since Jun 2018
234 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:16 pm to
Congrats @mtntreks!

Get it anyway, it's only a one-time $60 which is nothing after the cost of the MBA. It might not ever be helpful, but it will never be harmful. Regardless, even if it does nothing, it will still be more valuable than ISDS 705 (or ISDS 710 for that matter).
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 8:17 pm
Posted by bsramzy
Member since Jan 2012
323 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:47 pm to
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@bsramzy I also didn't have many issues with ProctorU either, but several people did. Many find it awkward simply knowing that someone is WATCHING YOU the entire time. I just wanted to blow through my questions and get it over with before I started to forget the things I crammed in 30 minutes prior. The extremely long setup (compared to Proctorio) was kind of annoying and one of the proctors was an impatient jerk. He phrased things oddly and got upset when I didn't understand what the hell he was asking for.

did your proctor ask to see your note sheet? Mine was really laid back

For the Meeks MADM760 people....Swear to god Im gonna lose my mind if I answer one more Paytm wallet question!
Posted by WDE251
Texas
Member since Dec 2017
122 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:25 pm to
@GeauxUF hahaha at riveting tale of Principles Of Managerial accounting. I think i read a similar riveting tale about Strategic HR while I was on a beach in Miami this past summer. Sometimes you have to sacrifice.

Love the idea of text to speech. Wish I was that type of learner as I have a lot of road time for work. But I am far from an auditory learner and I regularly practice selective listening ha!

@baroquen how are you holding up in 760 and 720? Again, what possessed us to do this to ourselves? At this point I can crank out a 10+ page paper like it's nothing

@mtntreks congrats! you going to the induction ceremony?

waiting for these last 4 weeks to be here and gone. It's so close....yet so far...
Posted by baroqen
Member since Jun 2018
234 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:57 am to
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Love the idea of text to speech. Wish I was that type of learner as I have a lot of road time for work. But I am far from an auditory learner and I regularly practice selective listening ha!


I'm married, so I'm also a highly selective listener!

I'm also holding up fine for the most part. It's actually more the reading than the writing. I get SO BORED and frankly don't even pay attention to what I'm reading, so I have to do it over again...

I'm 760 with McLaughlin which is mostly fine. My biggest struggles aside from the reading are just deciding on a topic to write on. It's so much easier when they give you the topic, hah!

I've also realized that this MBA program has made me start to question my rather strict ethical code. I'm working in Asia, and a lot of things run pretty grey to outright unethical to my senses, but my current text makes a good point about self-reference criterion and ethical relativism... Maybe I shouldn't reject those brib... er... I mean gifts...
Posted by zachtiger
St. Francisville
Member since Oct 2007
223 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:02 am to
@bsramzy that PAYTMs wallet case is so stupid... He’s asked 20 questions about It and it’s only an 8 page article that provides no info or insight on any of the questions he is asking. For Most of the questions I’ve had to do outside research and google info, and I still don’t quite understand what the company is all about....glad someone else is sick of that dumbass case. And just as a I thought - the last skill builder he docked me 3 points because it wasn’t long enough - this time I filled in with complete nonsense b.s. to up my word count.....and he gave me bonus points! What a colossal waste of time, effort, and energy
Posted by bsramzy
Member since Jan 2012
323 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:44 am to
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@bsramzy that PAYTMs wallet case is so stupid... He’s asked 20 questions about It and it’s only an 8 page article that provides no info or insight on any of the questions he is asking. For Most of the questions I’ve had to do outside research and google info, and I still don’t quite understand what the company is all about....glad someone else is sick of that dumbass case. And just as a I thought - the last skill builder he docked me 3 points because it wasn’t long enough - this time I filled in with complete nonsense b.s. to up my word count.....and he gave me bonus points! What a colossal waste of time, effort, and energy


Same here. I have had to do so much research outside of that paper. Paytm has evolved well beyond that case study. Maybe thats what he wanted us to do, I dont know.

Im probably weird for saying this, but I like the class despite the busy work and group work. Ive personally learned a lot of new concepts since I am not from the business world.
Posted by bsramzy
Member since Jan 2012
323 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:45 am to
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@baroquen how are you holding up in 760 and 720? Again, what possessed us to do this to ourselves? At this point I can crank out a 10+ page paper like it's nothing

Im doing the same 760 , 720 along with isds 705. Typing a paper is now something I can do in my sleep. I have never been good at it, but apparently one way to learn is when your given a large volume to do.
Posted by pkwy22
Member since Oct 2018
12 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 11:18 am to
Paytm has completely changed (expanded significantly) since that "journal article." I use the term loosely because it doesn't seem to be up to the same standard as just about any other journal article I've read. Ever.
I've also employed Google extensively to answer the endless Paytm questions, though most of that info is tenuous at best.
I have mixed emotions about the class, probably won't be able to give an answer one way or the other until it is over.
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:27 pm to
The Paytm case is interesting to me. I've actually enjoyed doing research on it. I think there are three challenges that must be overcome in understanding the business case:

1 - View the actual business case document in the course as a "to be continued" story. The business case ends right when things start reaching a very critical pivot point for Paytm. The decisions Paytm has made since then are a story of a founder essentially playing poker and going all in with other investors' equity at stake. Doing the research on Paytm to catch up to today uncovers a lot of new facts that make analyzing the case easier - and fascinating.

2 - Both the actual business case document and news on Paytm are generally written by people who know English as a secondary language. It takes extra time to decipher Indian terminology (crores, lakh, exchange rates) in order to learn exactly what is going on.

3 - Adapting to the overall nuances of analyzing a foreign market. The external business environment of India is very different than the US, and some extra research has to be done to get a sense of the challenges Paytm and its competitors face. It's a great opportunity to apply the external environment analysis concepts taught in the course.

Once I got past those hurdles, I found the business case to be quite interesting.
Posted by WDE251
Texas
Member since Dec 2017
122 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 6:48 pm to
I'm with those i meeks that are actually liking the case analysis and class in general. My group is great. And I'm definitely learning alot in the class. Like somebody said previously, you get out of it what you put in.
Posted by lexid18
Member since Oct 2018
1 post
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:38 pm to
Advice please!!

I'm planning to enroll in the online MBA with a specialization in marketing in January and need a little advice on who I should be scheduling and what classes I should be pairing together. My job is crazy flexible so I'm hoping to double up almost the entire MBA. Also, Im coming into the program with only a minor in Business from my undergrad, not a four year degree in business, so if anyone has any opinions on the few foundation courses that aren't for credit that would be cool, too.
I saw some reviews recommending Lins and Choi, but any more advice from current students is appreciated!
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 12:26 am
Posted by baroqen
Member since Jun 2018
234 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:24 pm to
lexid18.

Look like 2-3 pages back and you will see two posts that I made with extensive reviews of 5 of the classes. If you're interested in any specialization or concentration you should also indicate that so people can suggest electives.

Foundation courses aren't recommended. Waste of time/money, especially with even a minor background in Business. At worst you'll spend an hour or two to brush up on things you lack.

Lin is not actually recommended if you're hoping to learn something. Lin is only recommended for those needing an easy pairing with a heavy class. The class requires very little work and provides even less useful knowledge. Gibbs appears to be the recommendation for ISDS 705.

Oh... and avoid ISDS 710.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 1:26 am
Posted by hollywd
Member since Nov 2018
10 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:58 am to
I agree, Mclaughlin, I believe, is teaching at too many other schools at the same time.

If the posts are due by Tues. then she should have them up Sunday night.
Posted by BusinessKnight
Member since Sep 2017
376 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:58 am to
quote:
One reason why I chose LSUS is because of its affiliation with the flagship campus. I highly doubt they will allow the Shreveport campus to come even close to being at risk of losing their accreditation. Additionally, I have a peer paying several tens of thousands of dollars more than us in a "prestigious" business school and spent her first class dealing with a similar debacle of disorganization and lack of professor engagement. She said it was a mess and his lectures were awful and only served to confuse them basically. But goes to show there are bad professors everywhere. Nobody panic.

___________________________________________

They used to advertise that it is the same education, same curriculum, with some of the same instructors, for a lot less money.

If that is so, our education system really sux. The quality of the MBA program at LSUS has been very disappointing. Most students are not here to learn. Most are here to navigate the easiest path to the letters behind their name and just do not want to work for it. I don't mean to offend anyone, but you know it is true.

Now that you don't need to buy textbooks, the quality is even worse. As someone pointed out earlier, the information is so outdated in the "free" texts, it only substantiates that teaching and learning are not priorities in this program.

Most teachers do not teach at all. Most exams do not test knowledge or ability to think or work through problems. There are some wonderful exceptions, but they are rated wonderful only because of what they are compared to in the rest of the program.

APA compliance is more important than content. Many times, assignments do not relate to course material. If you learn anything in the course of making your A, it is because you decided to, not because you had to.

Classes that are time consuming are so because of busy work and silly requirements that are disconnected from learning.

Perhaps the worst thing is that most of the instructors have absolutely no experience in the real world of business. They are academics who have never had a real job, and it shows. Look them up. They are experts at rights of passage, hoop jumping, busy work, tactical research, and have no original thoughts- nearly every sentence in their articles and other published material is a citation. OF course, there are a couple of, perhaps more, exceptions.

Exceptions are the the ones everyone mentions, Meeks and Shaugnessey.I don't include Vines as exceptional. Otherwise, it is pay your 12.5 grand, go through some hoops, get your MBA with a 4.0, unless you trip on a hoop, but then you can whine about extra credit and get your A anyway. And if you don't, it is likely because you bombed a test that asked you about an insignificant minutia data set that nobody cares about and you didn't understand the badly worded answer choices or questions correctly.

Fortunately, I do not need the MBA for learning how business works since I am already well into my career. But, if you think an MBA from LSUS makes you better at running any business or more qualified to be successful than those who do not have an MBA, or that you are even remotely prepared to handle significant roles in business because of it, you have been fooled.

This is the reality and most of us don't like looking at reality and won't admit it. But, you know it is true.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 10:17 am
Posted by Glinda
Member since Apr 2018
41 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 1:11 pm to
To be fair, I think many who are taking an online path to an MBA are doing so for career advancement and not to start out. If you were looking for an MBA to help jump start your career in an unfamiliar, everyone should hopefully be aware that an in-person degree with LOTS of opportunity for networking would be better.

Posted by SkipDigs
PA
Member since Aug 2016
65 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 1:29 pm to
This is why I think one should not put "MBA" after their name as all MBA's are not created equal. An MBA from LSUS is not on equal footing as an MBA from Wharton.
Posted by GeauxUF
Atlanta OTP, GA
Member since Jun 2018
195 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

This is why I think one should not put "MBA" after their name as all MBA's are not created equal. An MBA from LSUS is not on equal footing as an MBA from Wharton.


Not to mention that, generally speaking, people who get Wharton, Harvard, and Stanford MBAs are not putting "MBA" after their name anyhow.

The practice of putting "MBA" after your name is perceived poorly since it isn't a terminal degree (Ph.D., MD) or a professional credential (CPA, CFP). This is a practice that appears to be popular among those who do not have degrees from a top business school to begin with.
Posted by WDE251
Texas
Member since Dec 2017
122 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:23 pm to
@businessknight I'm going to have to agree to disagree with you. For you to say completing the program doesnt make you better prepared to run a business or having a position of significance is you discounting the entire process of obtaining the degree. The prioritization, studying, reading, comprehensive writing etc that has to occur to get through the classes alone teaches something. Regardless of the specific curriculum. Effort had to be put forth to complete the class. More effort likely resorted in better grades. So yes you do get out of it what you but in. I knew going into an online program that a lot more self teaching and guiding would be involved.

I loosely equate the Harvard/lsus debate to public/private school debates that occur daily. Does paying more money mean better education? Maybe. Maybe not. Does paying more money guarantee a better education. Not necessarily. Regardless those public school kids are learning and still go on to be successful, well educated, well rounded individuals who go on to own extremely successful businesses. Education is about expanding your knowledge base. Whether you do it through formal or informal channels you are still learning something. You are basically discounting the entire process and stating you got nothing from your time earning your degree. At least that's how it came across to me
And If that is the case. that's a bummer. Because you should be proud of the degree you earned from LSUS. I know I will be. Go Pilots!
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 5:31 pm
Posted by bsramzy
Member since Jan 2012
323 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 5:42 pm to
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@bsramzy that PAYTMs wallet case is so stupid... He’s asked 20 questions about It and it’s only an 8 page article that provides no info or insight on any of the questions he is asking. For Most of the questions I’ve had to do outside research and google info, and I still don’t quite understand what the company is all about....glad someone else is sick of that dumbass case. And just as a I thought - the last skill builder he docked me 3 points because it wasn’t long enough - this time I filled in with complete nonsense b.s. to up my word count.....and he gave me bonus points! What a colossal waste of time, effort, and energy


I get it (his philosophy) but I also don't get it.
Currently, in 720, people get docked points because they don't write 200 words as told.

With 760, I feel that his questions are so deep, that I have no idea how you can answer his question without writing 300+ words per question.
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