Justice Department to Sue Apple for Antitrust Violations as Soon as Thursday

preach!

Doing something better than others is not antitrust.

I wonder if they know something else.

My Samsung S21 ultra doesn't care. There are competitors. Big ones.

And this alleged “anti-competitive” practice is what? shaming android people with the green texts and abhorrent video scaling? Nothing is worse than trying to send a video to and android person.

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And this alleged “anti-competitive” practice is what? shaming android people with the green texts and abhorrent video scaling?

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Gatekeeping the native messaging system in place for cellular users and intentionally degrading the experience between its iPhone and other phones in an effort to sway people to purchase iPhones is anti-competitive. Give me a single argument how this is bad for the consumer, because I have yet to see an Apple disciple produce any valid reason against, other than insecurity that this chips away at their perceived clout having an iPhone gives them.

, well played

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Every company operates in anti-competitive fashion.

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of course, its in their best interest to do so.

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It is laughable to equate business that act in their own profitable interest are doing anything to help their competition.

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surely you dont think its in the consumers' best interest to allow businesses to corner a market and do what is best for their profits. whats laughable to me is a consumer backing big business. but lets be honest, you dont actually believe your water company should be able to charge what is best for "their profitable interest" (spoiler its more money for a lower level service). or that your computer manufacturer should be able to dictate what kind of emails you can send to other computers. you've been conditioned to think this is Apple v Google, you're on team Apple, Android users are less than and must pay for their transgressions until they repent and get an iPhone. removing the degraded messaging experience lessens their punishment, reduces the ability to shame them and makes what you have less "special" and that hurts your ego. Otherwise, you actually want to put big business' interest above your own. It's wild, you'd think as much as Apple users bitch about the green message thing and degraded experience, they would be happy that is going away. Please, explain to me why a degraded messaging experience is beneficial to YOU.

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Anti-competitive behavior (also known as behavior) is not an antitrust violation.

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i think its right there on page 1 of what antitrust law covers.

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None of that affects consumers in the market other than on the apple platform.

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people sending messages with videos disagree.

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I'm on a galaxy and have no clue what you are referencing.

My family (on apple) can send via text, email, docs, Facebook messenger.

Where is this monopoly about sending messages that I need to worry about?
I bet if I asked my kids, they would give me 10 more apps that could share/dm videos without any "drama".

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The issue is not that there aren't alternatives to having a non-degraded messaging experience between 2 people. The issue is that Apple intentionally degrades the experience and refuses to conform to the standards for the native messaging experience between its users and non-Apple users. Text a video to your kid's phone number on his iPhone from your Android and let me know how great the quality is.

Your solution requires both parties to download alternative apps to communicate via messaging. It places a burden on the consumer especially in the US where the native messaging apps seem to be the primary means of sending messages not to mention that capability is a paid for feature of your cell plan. Imagine having to have FB to message John, Insta to message Sarah, WhatsApp to message Jose, GroupeMe for you college buddy chat, etc. Its less of an issue in Europe where WhatsApp seemingly has taken over as the preferred method of messaging between friends.

One could argue that, especially in the US where Apple commands a substantial and rapidly growing share of the cellphone market with its devices, that Apple dragging their feet on integrating with RCS is an intentional and anti-competitve tactic to draw more consumers over to iPhone for a better native messaging experience.

Based on your post i previously quoted, you think they should be able to do that. That companies should be able to employ anti-competitive tactics to block out competitors and force consumers to purchase their goods or services at prices based on barriers to entry as opposed to a fair market value of those goods and services, upheld by a level competitive landscape. That's your prerogative and you're entitled to it. But, its anti-consumer.

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You conflate a platform with market.

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I don't think I am. The market is cellphones and Apple commands a substantial share and maybe even a wide majority of that market in the US, pending where you get your numbers.

bottomline, seamless native messaging between all consumers is an objective win for consumers. we've never had it in the modern smartphone era, so I hope it comes to fruition. and i look forward to the innovation spurred in this lately kinda stale phone market as Apple, Samsung and other smaller device manufacturers compete for consumers on more level grounds.