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I've got a dumb question regarding selling a house

Posted on 2/10/18 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 7:10 pm
So, I have someone asking me about selling their house. They've lived there about 10 months. They hate it and want to move. Anywho, here's the question. They obviously won't meet the 2 year exclusion rule so if they sell before April that makes one year it'd be shirt term cap gains taxed at ordinary rstes, correct? Anytime between April and 2 year mark next April would be long term cap gains taxed at 20%?

I feel like this is a simple answer just want to make sure I'm not overlooking something, and I've told them to seek the advice of their CPA.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/10/18 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 7:19 pm to
I've looked through that. I understand the homeowners exclusion. I'm talking with specifically calculating the nature of the gain. Again, I'm pretty sure I'm correct just want to make sure I'm not overlooking something. For instance, if you get transferred for work l
Less than 2 years in you can prorate the exclusion, but they won't qualify for that.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39584 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 7:54 pm to
Ya, we almost had to deal with this issue ourselves. Bought a house in New Orleans and then received an offer we couldn't refuse to move to TX. Thankfully, it was about close enough to two years where we could set closing about 2 weeks past our two year purchase date anniversary.
This post was edited on 2/10/18 at 7:55 pm
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9803 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:39 pm to
Will there actually be a gain after 10 months?

What market?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/10/18 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Will there actually be a gain after 10 months?

What market?


Yes. Estimates show about 40k. Dallas market, very desirable neighborhood. From what I understand, they bought from an investor that bought the house and ended up moving to like California or somewhere and was having trouble selling it so it was a good price, and they did some cosmetic work themselves.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:54 am to
It’s important to note that they will be taxed on the gain in purchase price MINUS selling fees and any money spent fixing up the house.

That is if they move before 2 years.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:31 am to
If I were in their shoes I'd figure out how to suck it up for another year and qualify for the exclusion.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 7:26 am to
quote:

If I were in their shoes I'd figure out how to suck it up for another year and qualify for the exclusion.



I agree, but it's their house and their money. They are moving for jobs and young kids school so I kind of get it.

I'm just trying to make sure my OP is correct.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Yes. Estimates show about 40k.


After all fees to sell the house?

quote:

they did some cosmetic work themselves.



Any improvements made can be deducted from the gains as well

They'll likely be way less than $40k in gains after all of that, I'd imagine.

Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 6:34 am to
quote:

They are moving for jobs and young kids school so I kind of get it.


Depending on the mortgage note and property taxes they might even be better off renting it for six months and leaving it vacant the rest of the time rather than pay $8k in taxes.

Or work out some deal where they rent to someone for awhile and let them buy it outright after the time expires. They'd have to give up something for it but probably not $8k.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 6:35 am
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3663 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:27 am to
quote:

gain in purchase price MINUS selling fees and any money spent fixing up the house


This is the right answer. But if they still end up with a net gain, especially after about a year, good for them-tell them to stash away 15% of that until tax time and be happy about it.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:31 am to
quote:

This is the right answer. But if they still end up with a net gain, especially after about a year, good for them-tell them to stash away 15% of that until tax time and be happy about it.



Right. So, before 1 year short term gain, after 1 year before year 2 LTCG, correct?
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3663 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:53 am to
Correct.

And to get the exclusion, it has to be used as primary residence for 2 out of the previous 5 years.
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