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re: Is this business a good buy?

Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:05 am to
Posted by Churchill
Member since Apr 2009
631 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:05 am to
Thanks
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
1341 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:25 am to
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The business is a well established fuel, tire, and minor repair shop. It comes with property, building, tanks, equipment, prepaid insurance, cash on hand, etc. It is clearing $130,000 a year


Others have asked you pertinent questions already. The ask is high based on net. I'll go ahead and ask, but I assume the $130k is net - after taxes too?
I'd also like to know what the gross is yearly. $130k net on $500k would be great, but $130k on $1M, not so much.

quote:

Everything is paid off as this business has been around for 50 plus years. Everything is in good shape.


As others have said, the a majority of the value of the business could be the real estate involved.

Posted by Churchill
Member since Apr 2009
631 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:21 pm to
The income is $80,500 from 230,000 gallons of fuel sold, and 45% of $500,000 in shop parts and labor. Hard expenses are $177,000. I'm leaning towards no.
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
1341 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:49 pm to
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I'm leaning towards no.


Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23426 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:59 pm to
If it’s old you reasonably will need to do some upgrades. You need to get the real estate value, I’m not sure how you would want to include that but whatever you pay as said paying a $1 mil note with only $130,000 in income won’t be easy. So it really depends on how much value you can bring to the place. If the real estate is worth $500k or more and you can increase sales by 2x it would certainly start looking more lucrative.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:48 pm to
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130 isnt gonna go far when you throw in a note on a 1 mil loan.
Flag went up for me when I saw this.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17768 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 7:28 am to
Has he been paying himself rent ?

If no, run away what he has is a piece of real estate with a service station that needs to be demolished and cleaned up per DEQ standards (going to be expensive) and repurposed
If he is only making 130 without paying rent it can not survive, if he has been paying rent and that amount would cover your note , then it is worth investigating further
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15778 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:45 pm to
Unless the dirt under the property is worth a ton the answer is no with 80K coming off fuel this is way too expensive and risky. I have m and a background.
Walk away. Better businesses to be in.
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