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re: How is your 401k doing?
Posted on 4/7/23 at 1:20 pm to baobabtiger
Posted on 4/7/23 at 1:20 pm to baobabtiger
quote:But why would you risk trying to time the market in your 401k?
I am treading water. I cashed 40% out between July and nov of 2021. Been sitting in cash waiting till deflation happens and going to buy back in.
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 7:50 am to Rhino5
All of mine is in RTX Raytheon stock. It is doing okay.
Thanks Ukraine....lol
Azov Nazis ordering missiles like crazy.
Thanks Ukraine....lol
Azov Nazis ordering missiles like crazy.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:14 pm to TideHater
Mine was WAY up under Obama
I neglected to give him credit
I neglected to give him credit
Posted on 4/11/23 at 6:33 pm to Rhino5
After reading all the comments given I don’t understand why any negative comments have been given to this focal-fact of reality?
The Country and it’s wealth of its citizenry has been severely de n’égarâtes by this leadership.
Hell put RFK jr in charge you can only go up from zero? Or negative numbers if you believe in those…
The Country and it’s wealth of its citizenry has been severely de n’égarâtes by this leadership.
Hell put RFK jr in charge you can only go up from zero? Or negative numbers if you believe in those…
Posted on 4/11/23 at 8:42 pm to Rhino5
Just fine.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 8:58 pm to Tmcgin
quote:
Mine was WAY up under Obama
I neglected to give him credit
WAY up?
It gets the designation of the slowest recovery in history (he even acknowledged "this is as good as it ever will get").
Over 8 years, recovery is ALWAYS better than the alternative. But on a per year basis, I don't think I've ever seen anyone credit the administration until you.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:07 pm to meansonny
quote:
WAY up? It gets the designation of the slowest recovery in history (he even acknowledged "this is as good as it ever will get"). Over 8 years, recovery is ALWAYS better than the alternative. But on a per year basis, I don't think I've ever seen anyone credit the administration until you.
The S&P 500 total return was around 250% during Obama’s presidency.
Don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:01 am to slackster
quote:
The S&P 500 total return was around 250% during Obama’s presidency.
It helps that it dropped like 45% right before he took control. I think we can all agree its much easier to increase 100% after you have dropped 50% versus increasing all time highs 100%.
Without diving very deep into daily/weekly data, Obama increased the all time high about 45% in 8 years and Trump increased it like 68% in 4 years. Now it is obviously easier to increase all time highs when you take over at all time highs versus in a large downturn.
It is very disingenuous that so many people tout the SP500 increase under Obama without acknowledging he had some remarkable timing to take over at basically the bottom of a large downturn.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:47 am to slackster
quote:
The S&P 500 total return was around 250%
It is semantics. But you are trying to redefine "return" on investment, I presume.
The S&P grew 147% during Obama's 8 years.
And historically, it began the longest continuous run of quarters with GDP growth in history (which extended a couple of years into Trump). That is significant.
As I said, a growing economy is always better than the alternative.
But it was factually the slowest economic recovery in history after a recession (markets fell about 40% in 2008). GDP fell in 2009 and never grew on an annual basis better than 2.7% under Obama.
Only twice did GDP grow +1.0% better than inflation from 2008 to 2017 (2010 and 2015).
Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:55 am to bod312
quote:
It is very disingenuous that so many people tout the SP500 increase under Obama without acknowledging he had some remarkable timing to take over at basically the bottom of a large downturn.
Both sides do it. News pundits do it. Even economists may do it to make a point.
But the S&P500 is not 500 companies. It doesn't track their performance at all. It is the top 500 companies (which changes all the time. The same as the DJIA).
If I have a sample that changes, am I actually using a sample?
I wasn't going to even mention this because it "just is". It taints all data using indexes to simplify patterns.
Of course growth is going to look great when you remove companies that aren't growing and replace them with the best growing agencies in the world.
It isn't bad data because it is the easiest to grab. It is misleading as a factual sample and best used to illustrate economic trends.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:47 am to GCTigahs
You might want to look into the fees your choices are charging you. The overall market and most funds are higher in that time period, so you should not have less money.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:58 am to bod312
Agree with this. Cycles happen. I wish we could keep politics out of money threads.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:13 pm to bod312
quote:
It is very disingenuous that so many people tout the SP500 increase under Obama without acknowledging he had some remarkable timing to take over at basically the bottom of a large downturn.
Obama was an awful president for most businesses. His economy sucked, but stocks were excellent. He’s exhibit A for why you shouldn’t invest beaded on the president. If you sat out his presidency you’ll never catch up.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:21 pm to meansonny
quote:
It is semantics. But you are trying to redefine "return" on investment, I presume. The S&P grew 147% during Obama's 8 years.
I’m considering dividend reinvestment since this is a 401k thread. S&P 500 was up 233% after doing the date to date math.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:56 pm to slackster
quote:
I’m considering dividend reinvestment since this is a 401k thread
It seems the big companies with nice dividends have done well in the last year off course minus a few like MMM. MY Div portfolio has done much better than my 401k in the last year.
Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:05 pm to Rhino5
+31% on year.
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