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re: Holding AMC Thread- Diamond hands unite

Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:14 am to
Posted by Buck_Rogers
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:14 am to
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AMC hodlers gonna be disappointed when dilution comes in 2022

That's what was said earlier this year and what caused hedge funds to take out more short positions. Shareholders did not like the idea, the idea was scrapped and the share price rose, leaving hedge funds in a poor position. I asked a few others on here and I'll ask you. If you think share dilution is going to happen, will you let us know when you short the stock for that easy money?
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 8:15 am
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:37 am to
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. If you think share dilution is going to happen,


There is a reason he said no dilution for 2021.... He had enough cash on hand to keep the lights on. Cash burn is now an issue.

Bonds are already yielding higher than junk status right now. Dilution is basically required to keep from going bankrupt.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 8:38 am
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:10 am to
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UltimaParadox

So, will you be putting your money where your mouth is by shorting this also, or just shitting on other people for having the balls to back up their choice with money?
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:49 am to
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So, will you be putting your money where your mouth is by shorting this also, or just shitting on other people for having the balls to back up their choice with money?


Why would I short something so irrational? Even though it is obvious that dilution is coming, it does not seem to deter current holders.

The business has nothing do with the share price. I have stated that over and over
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:32 am to
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Why would I short something so irrational?

Because some of you seem certain that the share price will drop.
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The business has nothing do with the share price. I have stated that over and over


No shite, but neither are many other stocks, including those that are way undervalued. If you want to trade according to your fundamentals then go ahead, but you don't trust your fundamentals on AMC enough to short it, yet you love telling others not to go long on it when you have no skin in the game.
Posted by Hogwallop
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:36 am to
+20% today
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:45 am to
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So, will you be putting your money where your mouth is by shorting this also, or just shitting on other people for having the balls to back up their choice with money?


This isn’t the mic drop you think it is, and it’s been explained to you in this thread why that’s the case.

If you think AMC will go up, you’re only risking your invested dollars, at worst. If you think AMC will go down over time, you can be right and still potentially run out of liquidity to stay with the trade if it goes up in the interim. The asymmetrical risk of shorting a meme stock requires infinitely more balls and money than going long does.
Posted by slackster
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 10:45 am to
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+20% today


Risk on trade picking up steam all morning.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:02 am to
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This isn’t the mic drop you think it is

How could it be? I never stated how high I thought this will go or how low for that matter. You seem to be the one waiting for a "mic drop". This is not about "I told you so" for a lot of AMC shareholders. Instead of being lazy asses wanting something for nothing like the "occupy wall street" crowd, you see people taking a risk to expose a lot of corrupt practices. Unless you're a hedge fund who stands to lose a lot or just were fed with a silver spoon and just don't get it, why would you continuously cut people down for believing in something and actually trying to do something to change it?
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 11:14 am
Posted by touchdownjeebus
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:19 am to
Spider-Man release…
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40858 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 11:23 am to
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The asymmetrical risk of shorting a meme stock requires infinitely more balls and money than going long does.


It is the same guy posting in this thread under 40 names. Same argument over and over.

Dilution is the only way to keep the lights on, you are kidding yourself otherwise.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 11:25 am
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:06 pm to
25% gain on the day, holy smokes
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:32 pm to
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you see people taking a risk to expose a lot of corrupt practices


Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1844 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Chitown_Badger


You laugh, yet you lost out just like slackster and can not stand that retail traders made money hand over fist with AMC and continue to do so, while hedge funds are starting to fold. That's a fact that can not be argued. Instead of riding the money train for yourselves, you continue to frequent the thread with nothing of value to anyone but to hopefully one day say someone lost money. It's pretty demented. It's pathetic.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31131 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 12:55 pm to
You do know that there are other stocks that are way up over 2020, yes? And that a lot of us own a lot of them and have made a lot of money?

Also, which hedge funds have folded?

And I thought everyone was supposed to hodl AMC. You don't make money until you sell.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1844 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:25 pm to
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You do know that there are other stocks that are way up over 2020, yes?

Yes, that is obvious after everything dropped at the start of the pandemic. Of course it went up. Which ones did you recommend prior to rebounding or did you just lose on ATs picks? What stocks do you recommend now for going into 2022?
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Also, which hedge funds have folded?

Anchorage Capital recently shut its hedge fund down after betting against AMC stock and losing.
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And I thought everyone was supposed to hodl AMC. You don't make money until you sell.

I still have my core position and will hold it. Like I said, it's all house money riding now. Many are doing the same while scalping some too.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54135 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:27 pm to
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This is not about "I told you so" for a lot of AMC shareholders. Instead of being lazy asses wanting something for nothing like the "occupy wall street" crowd, you see people taking a risk to expose a lot of corrupt practices. Unless you're a hedge fund who stands to lose a lot or just were fed with a silver spoon and just don't get it, why would you continuously cut people down for believing in something and actually trying to do something to change it?
wow
Posted by Stagliano
Member since Dec 2020
1653 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:00 pm to
My best friend is an amc zealot and gives me that type of jibber jabber all the time
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1844 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:09 pm to
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My best friend is an amc zealot

There are many out there. Nothing wrong with making yourself a little money off of it.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31131 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:15 pm to
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Anchorage Capital recently shut its hedge fund down after betting against AMC stock and losing.


They were shorting the stock, but how do you know they lost? AMC has been dropping for months which is good for those short it.

And I may be reading this wrong, but a position size of a couple hundred thousand (assuming they lost it all, which they didn't) is less than a drop in the bucket for a $7.4B fund. AMC had nothing to do with them closing the fund.

This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 2:28 pm
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