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re: Holding AMC Thread- Diamond hands unite
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:38 pm to slackster
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:38 pm to slackster
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The great synthetic share count is about 46 million shares using the most favorable assumptions possible.
No names, but I was lead to believe it was in the range of 1-2 billion synthetic shares.
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:39 pm to carlsoda
quote:
There is no spinning maths broski.
You can manipulate data to fit whatever narrative you want.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:39 pm to slackster
quote:HA! So Ortex was wrong today? Did you remember to stop the subscription?
I’m saying this information blows up your entire hypothesis and you’re reaching for win.
You: There are likely billions of synthetic shares of AMC out there
AMC: There are less than 50 million synthetic shares, at best, in existence.
You: See, I told you there were a lot of synthetic shares out there.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:43 pm to AbitaFan08
Of course you can but Spin this particular set of data with retail owning 492m of 512m shares. I’ll wait.
ETA sorry 502M shares not 512M. My bad. Spin it abita!
ETA sorry 502M shares not 512M. My bad. Spin it abita!
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:48 pm to carlsoda
quote:My friend, it's 501,780,240 shares outstanding to be exact.
Of course you can but Spin this particular set of data with retail owning 492m of 512m shares. I’ll wait.
492 million owned by retail, then you have institutions and insider ownership.
If you hold, you are going to get a HUGE payday! It's not if, it's when!!!
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:50 pm to greygoose
None of that matters. The stock is tanking right now.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:50 pm to greygoose
So why is it getting absolutely shithammered right now?
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:51 pm to Large Farva
Giving everyone a shot to get in. Buying moar tomorrow. I’m using their money anyway
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:52 pm to Hog Springs
quote:Can you trade in AF? If you can, do you?
Hog Springs
Most retailers with the ability, do not. Why? Volume is very low, and price is easily manipulated.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:54 pm to carlsoda
Hey I’m holding shares of AMC so I am nothing but on your side. I’m just saying that “you can’t spin math” is a false statement.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:56 pm to greygoose
quote:
My friend, it's 501,780,240 shares outstanding to be exact.
492 million owned by retail, then you have institutions and insider ownership.
I thought Aron himself said 80% was held by retail.
quote:
More than 80% of AMC shares are held by a broad base of retail investors with an average holding of around 120 shares.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:58 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:
My friend, it's 501,780,240 shares outstanding to be exact.
492 million owned by retail, then you have institutions and insider ownership.
Chitstain:
quote:
I thought Aron himself said 80% was held by retail.
Yep. He's trying to tell your dumbass something.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:59 pm to greygoose
Can we ALL AGREE that since the algos have hijacked the markets and the Fed has meddled so much, the “market” is now a STRANGE frickin place to be?!?
ETA: Does ANYTHING even matter any longer as far as trading goes?!?
ETA: Does ANYTHING even matter any longer as far as trading goes?!?
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:01 pm to elprez00
quote:
I get that, but based on the numbers conservatively 10% of the company is shorted with shares that simply don’t exist. And that’s based off current data. That doesn’t count what’s been happening over the previous few months.
Isn’t that A: illegal and B: kinda messed up?
Well for one, 10% is not conservatively, it’s actually the most aggressive number I could create. It’s entirely possible there are no synthetic shorts out there. The institutional shares and short shares are educated guesses based on old potentials data. There were 138 MM shares on loan on that day, so enough shares could have been secured to cover any shorts.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:01 pm to greygoose
BTW, that 4.1 million retail shareholders is JUST IN THE USA AND CANADA! AMC is the largest theater chain in Europe and has shareholders worldwide!
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:02 pm to slackster
quote:So again, Ortex is wrong?
Well for one, 10% is not conservatively, it’s actually the most aggressive number I could create. It’s entirely possible there are no synthetic shorts out there. The institutional shares and short shares are educated guesses based on old potentials data. There were 138 MM shares on loan on that day, so enough shares could have been secured to cover any shorts.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:05 pm to greygoose
quote:It's way more than 10%! Ortex said just today, that there are over 100 million shares shorted. That is 20%!
I get that, but based on the numbers conservatively 10% of the company is shorted with shares that simply don’t exist. And that’s based off current data. That doesn’t count what’s been happening over the previous few months.
Isn’t that A: illegal and B: kinda messed up?
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:05 pm to AbitaFan08
Press release on Number of Retail Traders
so realistically at what point do we think this will reach?
87.68m reported on loan currently, of which 56.14m Short Interest or 10.98% short interest of the free. 82.35% Utilization. All estimates realistically.
so realistically at what point do we think this will reach?
87.68m reported on loan currently, of which 56.14m Short Interest or 10.98% short interest of the free. 82.35% Utilization. All estimates realistically.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:05 pm to greygoose
quote:
So again, Ortex is wrong?
The on loan data should be accurate. The short interest data is an estimate between the official reports.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:08 pm to greygoose
quote:
Yep. He's trying to tell your dumbass something.
So your "official share count" has not revealed an actual share count exposing the true amount of synthetic shares, as you've been claiming. If it had this math would be clear and agreed upon by everyone.
Color me shocked by this
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