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Helping siblings who are in debt
Posted on 8/21/20 at 8:55 am
Posted on 8/21/20 at 8:55 am
How much help would you give to a sibling who has made poor financial decisions and is close to retirement...
Posted on 8/21/20 at 8:56 am to tigers1956
0$ to 1 million. depends
Posted on 8/21/20 at 8:56 am to tigers1956
Only give to them with the expectation that you’ll never get it back.
Otherwise, don’t do it.
Otherwise, don’t do it.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 8:58 am to Brobocop
I never expect too ever see the money again..
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:10 am to tigers1956
I have a sister (52 years old) in this exact situation. She told our other sister that she is worried that when Mom dies she won’t have the money to fly home for the funeral. She has made unbelievably stupid financial decisions in her life ie...trades cars in when they need new tires because she can’t afford to buy tires. She left a huge bag of “personal papers” with me one time when she moved away asking me to burn it. I looked through them and a bunch were credit card statements. It was unbelievable what she bought and interest paid. With all that said I will never let her go hungry but I will never give her any of my hard earned money.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:12 am to tigers1956
Are they still making the poor financial decisions? If so, they will likely be right back in same position.
Perhaps incentivize meeting certain goals on their own rather than just paying off their debt yourself. Unless they've built good financial habits you might as well be throwing your money away.
Perhaps incentivize meeting certain goals on their own rather than just paying off their debt yourself. Unless they've built good financial habits you might as well be throwing your money away.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:20 am to tigers1956
Offer them anything and everything but money. If they refuse to accept help in the form of advice, food, shelter, etc...then they aren’t at rock bottom yet.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:47 am to tigers1956
No financial help, but would be willing to sit down with them to come up with a plan to clear that debt. They will have to come to the table with all debt information, all monthly obligations, and all expenditures for 2019 & 2020(cc transactions, bank transactions...) at a minimum.
Without this, all I can do is give them the standard boiler plate talk..."you need to take a hard look at your income and make sure you aren't spending more than you make"
I'd also offer them to read something along the lines of "Start Late, Finish Rich"
Without this, all I can do is give them the standard boiler plate talk..."you need to take a hard look at your income and make sure you aren't spending more than you make"
I'd also offer them to read something along the lines of "Start Late, Finish Rich"
Posted on 8/21/20 at 10:49 am to tigers1956
Enough for shelter and food, which I would pay for directly - no cash to the spendthrift.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:01 am to tigers1956
What's their issue? Debt? Lack of savings? Medical issues?
Something a client told me about recently, which I thought was a decent idea: Offer to match them, but only if they stop the behavior that ran up the debt in the first place.
He told a family member that for every dollar in debt the family member paid above the minimum due in a particular month, he would send a check for $2 directly to the debt company the next month.
So, if the min was $50 and the member paid $80, in May, then in June, he would send $60 directly to the CC company (extra $30 paid by member, divided by two).
Obviously you have to trust that the family member is going to make the necessary changes to not just run up more debt.
Something a client told me about recently, which I thought was a decent idea: Offer to match them, but only if they stop the behavior that ran up the debt in the first place.
He told a family member that for every dollar in debt the family member paid above the minimum due in a particular month, he would send a check for $2 directly to the debt company the next month.
So, if the min was $50 and the member paid $80, in May, then in June, he would send $60 directly to the CC company (extra $30 paid by member, divided by two).
Obviously you have to trust that the family member is going to make the necessary changes to not just run up more debt.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:15 am to tigers1956
Family, the OTHER "F" word!!!!
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:23 am to tigers1956
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How much help would you give to a sibling who has made poor financial decisions and is close to retirement...
I wouldn't under any circumstance give that person money. You could buy them a place to live as an example of how to help.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:20 pm to tigers1956
Got one of these situations in my own family. Bro in law has historically made poor decisions, is on third marriage, has a bankruptcy in his past. He won’t be able to retire: I’m sure he will be doing something well into his 70s unless one of his four kids strikes it rich. He received the same advantages as his siblings—modest but not tiny inheritances when each parent passed, little bit of money from late grandparent. But he can’t hang onto a dime to save his life....I am generous toward his kids, bc they’re all solid citizens who have learned from his bad example. But my spouse and I are absolutely NOT giving him money. He will likely have social security and keep working til he physically can’t any more. C’est la vie.
It can be hard to keep the peace in a family who don’t all have the same standard of living.
It can be hard to keep the peace in a family who don’t all have the same standard of living.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 4:27 pm to tigers1956
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and is close to retirement
I’d tell them not to retire. It’s that simple. If they have to work until their death, so be it.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 5:26 pm to MikeBRLA
Seems like everyone has at least one family member in this sutuation...
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