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Health savings a count question

Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:38 pm
I have chosen a high deductible insurance plan at work and am eligible for a health savings account. My company dumps $500 into the HSA annually. I can add more if I want, so I Am trying ti decide how much to add. My question is a HSA tax deferred or tax exempt?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:40 pm to
Tax exempt going in
Tax exempt gains if invested
Tax exempt when pulling out for medical expenses

MAX IT
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

so I Am trying ti decide how much to add.


Max it through payroll deductions if you can. Save the 7.5% payroll tax
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 1:55 pm to
I’m a big fan of HSAs. I think they can help with rising health insurance premiums as people may opt to use HSA savings for routine expenditures as opposed to putting everything on insurance. This could make the health insurance market more like the car insurance market, where only major items are actually being covered by insurance. This puts more responsibility on consumers, causes them to exercise more discretion in consuming health care, and gives them access to an attractive investment tool in its own right.

Many call HSAs a “stealth 401(k).” Once you’ve maxed out your 401(k), you can then max out your HSA and invest it much the same way. If you need to use the funds for medical purposes, you’ll be able to do so tax free. But if you don’t use them all for medical purposes, once you’re 65, you can use the HSA funds for any reason and only pay taxes on your distributions (no penalties). This is why people view them as a “stealth 401(k).”
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56034 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Tax exempt going in
Tax exempt gains if invested
Tax exempt when pulling out for medical expenses


Holy shite...I do need to max that out! I wish I had been in this 20 years ago, when I didn’t have any health care costs to speak of.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 2:27 pm to
There's pretty much no better tax vehicle out there.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 2:44 pm to
What if you have a wife and several kids is this still a better way to go rather than a PPO plan? It just seems like I would quickly drain any of the savings i put in a HSA and wouldn't have much to invest. I know they have high deductables too compared to my PPO plan.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 3:13 pm to
I've spoken about this here multiple times, but at the risk of sounding like a broken record, the bottom line is you have to do the math. The main factors being the difference in premium between both plans AND any company contributions. For me it's a no brainer.

Here's a pot I made on the topic a while back comparing PPO and HSA for what my compnay offers.

HSA was either superior all the way (family plan), or the window where PPO>HSA was very small (single, empl+spouse, empl+children). And that did not even take into account the tax advantage.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56034 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 3:15 pm to
I would say to crunch the numbers based on one year when you had a lot of medical costs and compare. You get lower premiums but also have a higher deductible also. You have also got to take into consideration that insurance will 100% after your deductible, so it is a pretty complicated equation.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25609 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:57 pm to
Most of the plans that I have seen have a copay after the deductible is met.

The copay applies until the out of pocket maximum is met.

Is this not the type of health plan that you have? You have insurance covering 100% after the deductible?
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 1:58 pm
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