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Guaranteed 8.2% return

Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:43 pm
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2754 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:43 pm
My dad is a successful attorney nearing retirement (67 years old). We are on a family vacation and I overheard him talking to his financial guy. Apparently, he is sending the guy $20,000 for a short term “guaranteed” 8.2% gain. I was immediately concerned because I would put all of my money in this guaranteed return if I knew about it (most of this board would, too, but we won’t since it is obviously BS). When I asked him what it was, he threw out “Bank note” and says his last transaction was with Chase bank. He didn’t really know what he was investing in.

Now, at this point (close to retirement) $20,000 is probably a drop in the bucket, but it made me wonder what the heck this guy is doing with the rest of my dad’s money. I don’t trust him at all. It isn’t like this guy is some obvious schyster. He sends all his kids to Newman (the most expensive school in New Orleans), so he must have some sort of decent reputation (or he just successfully preys on financially unsavvy folks). But if anything, I feel like my parents should be rather conservative at this point.

For the record, I told my dad I was going to post this on TD because he seemed annoyed at my alarm over his guy. I said he will be called senile and be viewed as an old sucker (over here on TD). I hope you all agree with me. But honestly, if I’m off base, I’d love to hear that too. So please chime in either way, because the more feedback I get, perhaps I can be more convincing that his new deal seems sketchy and he needs to be careful.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 9:47 pm
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3695 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:50 pm to
You're right on.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3182 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:56 pm to
Ive seen this episode of American Greed before...

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27066 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:08 pm to
Scam.
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:11 pm to
Need more info, sounds like a scam.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7492 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Guaranteed 8.2% return


Is he investing in a CD in the year 1981?
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:28 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82022 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Guaranteed 8.2% return
quote:

Need more info
Not really
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6211 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:28 pm to
There is some GSE debt out there for 6 but the 8.5......nah
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46188 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

But if anything, I feel like my parents should be rather conservative at this point.


Well they are. It’s guaranteed


Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:30 pm to
Has your dad never heard of Bernie Madoff, or Allen Stanford? A lot of otherwise really smart people were defrauded of their money.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:32 pm to
Tell the guy to put it in a contract it’s an 8.2 percent guaranteed return and see what happens
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:35 pm to
It's probably an annuity with a first year guarantee.

Guy up here in Jafrica runs ads like this from time to time.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84855 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:45 pm to
They run ads on the radio about guaranteed quick returns on real estate in Florida and whatnot. It's all sketchy as hell.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84855 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

Apparently, he is sending the guy $20,000 for a short term “guaranteed” 8.2% gain.


You need some more information on the term and the return. If it's 8.2% total, cumulative return, over a period of 3 years or more, it's plausible.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:51 pm to
Nobody can Guarantee shite. Isn’t that like financial advisor 101
Posted by Moots
Gonzales, LA
Member since Nov 2007
978 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 3:22 am to
My BS meter is pegging out on this pretty much like everyone else...Tell your Dad to just apply one of the basic rules of investing, or life for that matter: “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is...”
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20443 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:04 am to
Hell yeah id likely be urging your dad to change financial advisors asap. What else is your dad invested in?

Sure it's probably $20k today and in 2 months when he gets his first Ponzi scheme payment back they'll ask for $40k because it 'clearly' works.

I mean how do you think Ponzi schemes get started? They are all 'stand up' guys that's how they get more clients to invest.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:05 am to
OP, you're correct in being suspicious. Unfortunately, your dad is likely stubborn and hard-headed in his old age (as was my father and many others I've known) and isn't going to listen to you or anyone on here because he thinks he's got it all figured out. However, if he cannot explain what he's investing in (doesn't need to fully understand it, but should have a general idea), then he has not asked enough questions of this advisor and he's risking getting taken to the cleaners.

Would be nice if you could find out more about this offering. Perhaps do a little "shopping" yourself and see what this guy has to tell you.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6211 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:38 am to
A fool and his money, something something something.

(Not that your dad is a fool)
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:43 am to
"Guaranteed" return products exist, but not at a return that is that high. That is the exact same concept Stanford Group pushed. Run far, far away. Honestly I would be inclined to report the guy if I knew more about the situation... these kinds of people can ruin folks' lives.
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