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re: GOLD... what could this rise really mean ?

Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:35 pm to
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45470 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Just used the calculator and it says 3 cents in 2013 is 4 cents today


My bad. Fixed now. I meant 1913.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
6597 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:36 am to
Thanks. I learned something today.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:13 am to
FDR did no such thing.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:56 am to
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Never understood this premise. Alan Greenspan shared that gold price is the main inflation indicator.
It’s a good indicator of monetary inflation which is different than price inflation. Price inflation is the form of inflation we commonly refer to. Monetary inflation captures currency debasement.

All else equal, the formula below is true:

monetary inflation - productivity = price inflation.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4482 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:09 am to
How would you summarize his actions?

quote:

Executive Order 6102: On April 5, 1933, Roosevelt issued the executive order under the authority of the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917. The order required Americans to deliver their gold to the Federal Reserve in exchange for $20.67 per troy ounce.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:09 am to
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monetary inflation - productivity = price inflation.
The problem being productivity is harder to measure in service economies and doesn't capture quality improvements or new products well.

Greenspan was using gold as a signal of monetary excess specifically, not as a comprehensive inflation predictor. He was essentially asking: "Is there too much money being created relative to the economy's capacity?"

i.e., "inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon"
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19654 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 6:30 am to
That's just an order and he intended to default on the debt hence the move. The vast majority of gold was never turned in by Americans.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:53 am to
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The vast majority of gold was never turned in by Americans.


This is absolutely the case.

Regardless, now is not the time to be dip-buying gold .... the USD is in the process of rallying
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 11:26 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19654 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 12:47 pm to
Imma disagree on that.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3966 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:25 pm to
Gold soars, treasury sells its gold and moves to crypto which then skyrockets which then covers our debts!
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