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Doctor's Office Scheduled Exam Only If Health Insurance Would Cover It; Wasn't Covered

Posted on 3/11/18 at 7:54 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18422 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 7:54 am
My wife's OB/GYN discussed a particular ultrasound with us a few weeks ago because our first son was born with a kidney issue that we didn't know about until a few weeks before he was born. She said we could go ahead and schedule the exam now if we wanted to. We asked her specifically if it would be covered by insurance and she said "it should be." We then pressed her about getting definitive answer and she said she would have the front desk check with our insurance company and only schedule it if it was covered.

A few days later, we got a call from the specialist's office about scheduling the appointment.

Had the appointment and of course, a few days ago, I get a bill in the mail for $2500 saying it wasn't covered by our insurance.

Any advice on how to handle this?
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7494 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 7:59 am to
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I get a bill in the mail for $2500 saying it wasn't covered by our insurance


Call insurance company. Wait for 2nd cycle.

I get medical bills all the time saying I owe. I just wait for my EOB to be generated and the next statement will show insurance paid
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18422 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:01 am to
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Call insurance company.


So call them and just explain the situation?

One issue is that our flex account drafts automatically. So a $157 payment already went to the bill. Think I can get that back?
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7494 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:04 am to
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So call them and just explain the situation?


Yes. They will explain to you what is covered and not covered.

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So a $157 payment already went to the bill. Think I can get that back?


Absolutely. If your insurance covers 100%, you will have $157 credit at the Dr
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 9:35 am to
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We asked her specifically if it would be covered by insurance and she said "it should be."


Never expect the physician to have a clue about whether something is covered.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:26 am to
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Never expect the physician to have a clue about whether something is covered



Any idea who to find out definitely from?

Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:50 am to
Your insurance company.

There should be a number on your card to call.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 10:51 am
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 3:15 pm to
How much did your EOB say you owe?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20483 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 3:19 pm to
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Never expect the physician to have a clue about whether something is covered.


This, this is nothing against your physician but they can't possibly know what everyone has coverage on. There's a lot of different options out there, some are great at knowing insurance some are terrible.

You should always consult your insurance before hand.

How much was the exam's total cost? I'm assuming it wasn't exactly $2500?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 3:39 pm to
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This, this is nothing against your physician but they can't possibly know what everyone has coverage on. There's a lot of different options out there, some are great at knowing insurance some are terrible.

You should always consult your insurance before hand.


Apparently y’all missed the part where the doctor’s office indicated they were going to check with the OP’s insurance provider before proceeding.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 10:43 pm
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 9:45 pm to
The doctors office knows exactly how it was coded.

They knew if if was covered or not. The phone call would confirm.

Looks like they didn't make the phone call.
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
1283 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:19 pm to
What was the test?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39584 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 10:59 pm to
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Apparently y’all missed the part where the doctor’s office indicated they were going to check with the OP’s insurance provider before proceeding.



True, but every health insurance plan requires the patient to be responsible for knowing what is covered and not covered by checking with the plan. That even means if the doctor represents something incorrect to the patient.

It's sometimes unreasonable and shitty at times, but that's the system. It's seems unreasonable to some I'm sure, but you can always call before anything is done and should be your standard practice if you're worried about the cost of something.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 11:02 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20483 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:10 am to
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Apparently y’all missed the part where the doctor’s office indicated they were going to check with the OP’s insurance provider before proceeding.


Verbally sure. Also, its not like the OP asked the billing specialist up front and they confirmed it in writing. It sounds like the OP asked the Doc and the Doc answered leisurely.

Unfortunately that's not really something you can hold the Doc to, is all I'm saying. The Doc office may help them out here, but they may not. Ultimately its the customer's job to know what exactly they are covered for.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:18 am to
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I get a bill in the mail for $2500 saying it wasn't covered by our insurance.


More detail please. Non covered service? Out of network? Subject to deductible? Out of network is probably the only denial reason that could get you some relief. But negotiating directly with the specialists to your insurers contracted rate is possible.

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She said we could go ahead and schedule the exam now if we wanted to. We asked her specifically if it would be covered by insurance and she said "it should be." We then pressed her about getting definitive answer and she said she would have the front desk check with our insurance company and only schedule it if it was covered.


I realize she said this, but it likely never happened. And, IMO, it's not their responsibility. It's unrealistic to expect a PCP or OBGYN to verify your coverage at their office, and then verify your coverage at someone elses office before deciding on a plan of care. The specialist's office that provided the U/S should have the same verification and billing procedures as your OB/GYN. They get demographics from your OBGYN, and they handle their own scheduling and verification. Are they the ones billing you the $2500? And why didn't you ask them, the entity providing the service, about the cost?
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 10:23 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:29 am to
Call insurance and explain what happened. Sometimes they'll make a one-time exception in cases like this. Unfortunately the ultimate responsibility on knowing what is covered is on you, so the OB/GYN isn't really to blame.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:36 am to
It is your responsibility to verify coverage with your insurance provider.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 1:41 pm to
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It is your responsibility to verify coverage with your insurance provider.



If I call BCBS's 1-800 line and ask them about an ultrasound, they're going to read the same line from my EOB page that says "Covered w/ exceptions" (paraphrasing) and want the billing codes. However, those codes vary based on the provider, the MD that reviews the US, etc. This is after waiting on hold for 45 minutes, and calling the Doc office's billing department 7 times because you've left messages that they don't return because their automated system just sends you there.

So you naturally turn to the doctor's office, that knows exactly how it will be coded, and has direct access to a insurance rep, along with an online system that can provide an accurate cost for the procedure.

While correct, and technically speaking, the OP should have verified himself. The issue here lies with an individual/group the OP trusted to obtain the accurate information.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:11 pm to
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and has direct access to a insurance rep


I wish. No, we wait on hold forever just like you do. There is no bat phone for providers, just a different phone number to the same call center.

Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18422 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 2:12 pm to
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While correct, and technically speaking, the OP should have verified himself. The issue here lies with an individual/group the OP trusted to obtain the accurate information.


Sure I should have. But we have teacher's insurance and everything has always been covered. I've never had to double check with an insurance company to know about costs. It's always been really low, so when the doctor said they would only schedule the appointment if it was covered, I assumed it would be, you know, covered.

I can accept fault for being spoiled with health insurance and not realizing that I too can get hit with a large bill unexpectedly if I don't do my homework.

But something that influenced this too was when I had to go to "optional" PT as prescribed by my doctor. Insurance covered 80/20, and I wanted to know what my bill was going to be. The doctor's office said they didn't know what it would be because it would have to be filed as a claim and negotiated with the insurance company. They told me to call my insurance company. So I did. The insurance company told me they couldn't give me a number unless the doctor's office filed the procedure (or whatever a PT visit would be called) and they could see how much they would cover. I had both offices blatantly tell me they could not give me a number without consulting with the other office.

I left that experience thinking that it was impossible to truly know what a medical procedure would cost as it requires the two offices speaking to each other. So when our doctor said, "We'll talk to them and only schedule it if it's covered," I assumed that's all I was capable of doing.

Like you said, I would need the billing codes, but the doctor didn't give us an explanation of the procedure. She just said she thought we should have an ultrasound with a specialist to see if there were any kidney issues. If I called the insurance company and said, "We're getting an ultrasound but a special kind," I imagine they would have wanted more specifics before giving me an exact number.

I should also mention that this specialist is booked pretty far out and with my wife's work schedule, it can be hard to find a good time to book any doctor's appointments. So the doctor told us it would need to be scheduled sooner rather than later.

I don't know if I buy that it could have been as easy as "doctor gives us the name of the procedure and the cost. We phone the insurance company. They tell us the amount we would owe." The OB/GYN didn't even really know as she was sending us to a specialist. The specialist after making the appointment would have had to give us the exact names and descriptions involved in the screening. Then we'd have to call the insurance company with those exact names and have the insurance company tell us with certainty the cost of those items and how much they would or wouldn't cover.

Considering my experience with the PT, I don't think there's enough clear communication between the parties involved to ever actually find out the cost of a medical procedure.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 2:15 pm
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