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CPA.. Capital Gains Question

Posted on 2/17/18 at 11:18 am
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
797 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 11:18 am
Anyone who can clarify, please do so.

I purchased a speculative piece of property in 2012 for 50k. I sold that property in 2017 for 107,507.58 after commission. My understanding is that since I held the property for over 2 years this should be taxed at capital gains rate (15%). So if I made 57k in profit shouldn’t my tax be around 8,500.00?

Before I add the capital gains info I am looking at a refund of 3500. After I add it I owe 7,700 federal or a change 11k. I am using the Tax Slayer software platform.

Can anyone explain why?

I did not receive a form 1099-B if that matters.

Thanks in advance for any info.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2472 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 11:27 am to
Could be the 3.8% Obamacare tax, at least in part
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:37 pm to
You sure you have the dates of transactions entered correctly? That looks like around a 19% taxing of the sale, which sounds around the effective rate(short term) is for some folks.


What does it show on Sch D?
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
797 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:11 pm to
Dates are correct. If this was being calculated at short term rates, it would fall in the 28% range for my wife and I.

I looked at a schedule D and it asks for transactions reported on a 1099-B. I haven’t received one (yet).
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20019 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 3:31 pm to
Your gain is probably triggering the 3.8% Medicare tax that has nothing to do with Medicare.

But your holding period should indeed be triggering cap gains treatment, so not taxed as ordinary income. In the 28% marginal bracket, I doubt you are anywhere close to the 20% CG rate, so you are likely at 18.8% on your gain.

57,500 x 18.8% = $10,810
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 9:55 pm to
Could be net investment income tax

Could be 20% cap gains tax if your income is high enough

Could be phasing out of credits/deductions due to higher income b/c of cap gain

Could be some combination of the above
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20019 posts
Posted on 2/17/18 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Could be 20% cap gains tax if your income is high enough


Doesn’t look like he would hit that.

quote:


Could be phasing out of credits/deductions due to higher income b/c of cap gain

Could be some combination of the above


This is likely
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
797 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 8:21 am to
I am unfamiliar with the Medicare tax your speaking of (3.8%). I am naive I guess, I thought capital gains was a straight 15%.

Our income doesn’t push the area of 20% capital gains, so your explanation is the most plausible. Thanks for the insight.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20019 posts
Posted on 2/18/18 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

I am unfamiliar with the Medicare tax your speaking of (3.8%). I am naive I guess, I thought capital gains was a straight 15%.


It’s an additional capital gains tax under the guise of “Medicare”- direct result of Obamacare. Make no mistake, it is just an increase to the capital gains rate for high earners. I believe it starts on cap gains over $250k for married filing jointly. So to the extent that this gain pushes your total income over $250k, the extra tax kicks in.

From the info you have, it doesn’t seem as though the entire gain would be subject to the extra tax, but it very well could have.

So in simple terms, if your AGI before the gain was exactly $250k, then all of the gain would be subject to the tax.

All of your other assumptions appear correct (seems like this is pushing your total liability a little high). However as others have mentioned, you may have been phased out of some credits/deductions you would have otherwise gotten because of the gain.

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