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Chesapeake Energy...
Posted on 6/4/12 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 6/4/12 at 8:31 pm
Electing new board members. Stock price currently in mid 15s.
Odds on them getting their issues fixed. At what point would you buy...
Odds on them getting their issues fixed. At what point would you buy...
Posted on 6/4/12 at 8:51 pm to cjared036
There was a long thread about CHK about 2-3 pages back. I got in at 16.04 week before last. It closed today @ 16.52 fwiw, not mid 15.
From purely an asset standpoint, I have some comfort in thinking they will not totally go under. I remember seeing asset valuations that had bloggers giving price targets in the 40s, 50s and even 60s last fall. Of course, a lot has changed since then. I am long CHK right now, keeping my reader on CHK a lot.
From purely an asset standpoint, I have some comfort in thinking they will not totally go under. I remember seeing asset valuations that had bloggers giving price targets in the 40s, 50s and even 60s last fall. Of course, a lot has changed since then. I am long CHK right now, keeping my reader on CHK a lot.
Posted on 6/4/12 at 9:01 pm to cjared036
Can the new board members fix the laws of supply and demand?
We've tapped huge reserves of domestic natural gas in the last 3 years or so and it killed the price of natural gas.
CE made a ton on that.
You can't have it all.
We've tapped huge reserves of domestic natural gas in the last 3 years or so and it killed the price of natural gas.
CE made a ton on that.
You can't have it all.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 8:13 am to GREENHEAD22
Up to 17.26 after hours.
News from last night:
News from last night:
quote:
Chesapeake in talks on $4 bln pipeline sale-Bloomberg
8:49 pm ET 06/05/2012
June 5 (Reuters) - Chesapeake Energy Corp is in advanced talks to sell almost all of its pipeline assets for more than $4 billion to Global Infrastructure Partners, Bloomberg reported, citing sources with knowledge of the matter.
The second-largest U.S. natural gas producer is discussing selling all of its interests in Chesapeake Midstream Partners LP as well as other pipeline assets, Bloomberg reported.
The talks could result in a deal within days although there was a risk negotiations could also fall apart, the report quoted the sources as saying.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 2:19 pm to rmc
Guess that should about cover the $4b loan from G&S.
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:58 am to cjared036
I've looked at their financials a bit and I like the fact Carl Icahn is on board (which if you didn't know is the reason they are electing new board members; he wrote an open letter demanding them). It is a buy rating in my book. It could go lower as oil and nat gas head further south if no QE quick fix is up for play, but honestly the stock has been beat to hell over the last year so picking it up now isn't that terrible of an idea. It really depends on your risk appetite, how much you are willing to buy, your time horizon, the rest of your portfolio, etc.
Posted on 6/7/12 at 12:45 pm to ich1baN
Buying CHK is a 100% gamble on a price bounce which will most likely occur based on "positive" news about the board, Ichan, are 1 well in OK/TX Panhandle or a major moving in to buy it...problem is the debt load, the fact that much of their production has already been monetized....it's a toxic company. GL to those that buy.
Posted on 6/7/12 at 1:05 pm to cwill
I got in at the beginning of the week.
No more substantial analysis than what has been posted here, but I think Icahn's ability to tear companies apart is going to serve this overleveraged behemoth well.
No more substantial analysis than what has been posted here, but I think Icahn's ability to tear companies apart is going to serve this overleveraged behemoth well.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 1:42 pm to TheHiddenFlask
LINK
CHK is up to 18.35 right now
quote:
1:54 pm ET 06/08/2012 - Associated Press, The
OKLAHOMA CITY -- Chesapeake Energy Corp. shareholders rebuked the company's board by withholding support for two directors up for re-election at Friday's annual meeting. Both directors have tendered their resignation.
Shareholders also withheld their support for an executive officer compensation proposal and peppered CEO Aubrey McClendon with questions about the corporate governance and accountability of the nation's second largest producer of natural gas.
...
McClendon predicted that natural gas prices will eventually rebound from the current price of about $2.29 per 1,000 cubic feet but that the company will shift its focus to the production of natural gas liquids this year to boost its bottom line.
"The company trades at a great discount to the value of its assets," he said.
CHK is up to 18.35 right now
Posted on 6/8/12 at 3:22 pm to rmc
Security was everywhere today for the shareholders meeting. Never saw the campus that locked down.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 3:55 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
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Security was everywhere today for the shareholders meeting. Never saw the campus that locked down.
I imagine so. I mean, shares are still down about 50% off the 52 week high and people read about McClendon balling out of control while they lose their arse. I can see why a few were upset.
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:07 pm to PetreauxCat
So do you think that means we are or aren't getting our raises and bonuses this month?
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:10 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
Offshore can you comment on the mood of things on the campus up there? Good spirits? Everyone behind McClendon?
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:42 pm to rmc
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Offshore can you comment on the mood of things on the campus up there? Good spirits? Everyone behind McClendon?
Yeah, I'd say so mostly. Even when the stock was tanking, and Aubrey himself gave a townhall meeting, this place kept a Pleasantville vibe.
Most people that I've spoken to about this make comments like 'outsiders really don't understand how we do things'. Maybe generalizing it like that is unfair to how it was stated, but that's sort of the feeling I get.
I've never met him yet; my orientation with him isn't for a few more months. I've seen him around campus and seen him interact with his employees, and he seems to treat everyone as friends. People speak very highly of him here, and he returns the favor. I've never worked for a company like this before and probably never will again, so I hope this shite doesn't go under. I love my job and the people I work with and work for. And they got me away from chevron.
Yeah, that's way more than you asked for.
Posted on 6/9/12 at 2:49 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
a few things I know first hand:
they used cheap steel in the haynesville and made what is in essence "disposable" pipeline systems that have at best 7-10 year life expectancy before they start to fail.
they never got a handle on their operations of the midstream side in the haynesville and pipelines that are less than 5 years old have issues with sand, water and bacteria accumulation in them
selling off the midstream side will ease the debt load and it will eliminate the issue down the road of paying for the inevitable pipeline rupture
if they do sell off their midstream side then the upstream side will have to undergo significant operational and philosophical changes because a third party gathering system will not allow them to operate the way they did when they owned their own gathering system. IE: using the pipeline as a garbage can
they are making a big push into oil shale production in the eagle ford and they have had a lot of success down there
they spend money like drunken sailors on their drilling side. some of what they do would make a CHK investor sick
they drilled and produced enough wells in the haynesville to pay for the pipeline system and to hold their leases. they have a fraction of production versus the gas reserves they hold in the haynesville
they used cheap steel in the haynesville and made what is in essence "disposable" pipeline systems that have at best 7-10 year life expectancy before they start to fail.
they never got a handle on their operations of the midstream side in the haynesville and pipelines that are less than 5 years old have issues with sand, water and bacteria accumulation in them
selling off the midstream side will ease the debt load and it will eliminate the issue down the road of paying for the inevitable pipeline rupture
if they do sell off their midstream side then the upstream side will have to undergo significant operational and philosophical changes because a third party gathering system will not allow them to operate the way they did when they owned their own gathering system. IE: using the pipeline as a garbage can
they are making a big push into oil shale production in the eagle ford and they have had a lot of success down there
they spend money like drunken sailors on their drilling side. some of what they do would make a CHK investor sick
they drilled and produced enough wells in the haynesville to pay for the pipeline system and to hold their leases. they have a fraction of production versus the gas reserves they hold in the haynesville
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:23 pm to supatigah
They spun off the midstream business last year, its a publicly traded MLP (CHKM); they just announced last week that they are selling their remaining holdings in the MLP, so they're 100% divested (or soon to be there). They're in the process of spinning-off the services company. Interesting to note about the pipes though, doesn't bode well for the MLP, where you get that kind of info from? People in the field?
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:08 pm to supatigah
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they spend money like drunken sailors on their drilling side. some of what they do would make a CHK investor sick
They soak outside working interest partners on everything. Pretty much everybody hates working with them and they will over bill you for everything imaginable. Their employees must have a difficult job when all the other companies who hold interest in their wells absolutely hate CHK. They are essentially using their midstream business as a way to pay lower prices to all ORRI, WI, and RI owners, sometimes as much as 1.00 less than Henry Hub and even paying the same owner different prices in the same gas units. It is clearly an effort from upper management as they know that any challenge via lawsuit is going to be difficult to prove because they have so many entities handle gas between wellheads and actual sales points. I've been told from some ex Chesapeake employees that Aubrey learned to operate this way from his Kerr-McGee roots, although there is really no way to verify this. They give tons of money to charities and local non profits to garner positive publicity but then treat their working interest owners and royalty owners in a totally different light. They have a lot of good assets but McClendon is a landman who cannot stop buying land (among other things) and the debt load looks to be like cement shoes holding the company down in a low gas price environment. In short many in the industry will not feel sympathy towards them if they actually get close to going under.
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