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Building a house -- architect/loan question

Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:13 am
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:13 am
Got a great deal on an empty lot in an expensive area of town. We're getting ready to build a rental house on the lot. The builder is well vetted and comes highly recommended.

Do we need an architect? We were referred to an architect who quoted us a $13,000 fee on a $200k house.

Also, probably a dumb question, but do we need building plans before a bank will give us a loan?
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
1905 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:23 am to
That is stupid fricking high for a $200K house. Shop around.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42503 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:27 am to
Whoops...architect fee is $9,000 and seems rolled into the construction quote
Posted by thatguy777
br
Member since Feb 2007
2386 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:33 am to
Use a drafter. I am in the process of doing something similar now. He charged $1/sqft under roof. No need to get an architect to stamp where I am and only need engineer stamp if ceilings are 12ft I believe.

And yes you will need plans and contractor bid to get the loan.
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1241 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Also, probably a dumb question, but do we need building plans before a bank will give us a loan?


Yes maybe not all, but 99% will need to see the plans before the loan. They will need to give the plans to the appraiser so he can use it when appraising the projected build.

What state are you building in?
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4590 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:41 am to
Agreed on the drafter part. We printed out some plans from online and gave it to a guy who charged us $350 to make it into blue prints with some changes. $350k house.
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
5809 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:13 am to
quote:

No need to get an architect to stamp where I am and only need engineer stamp if ceilings are 12ft I believe.


I'm an architect, I've never heard of this. For single-family residential, you need either an architect's stamp or an engineer's stamp. You do not need both (regardless of ceiling height)
If you're looking for a cookie cutter design for a rental, sure...use one of those draftman/designer guys and save yourself some money.
If you're designing your forever home...hire an architect


ETA: love all the cheap asses with their down votes
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 4:00 pm
Posted by whatshisface
Westside
Member since Jun 2012
272 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:03 pm to
Get on the city's website and find out what they require to approve a building permit. It will tell you what specific drawings you need and what situations might require a stamp. As mentioned, home designers or even complete plans online will be more cost effective. Unless you have something unique online plans may be fine. You'll need a set of plans and a budget for construction costs for any loan from a bank.
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

single-family residential, you need either an architect's stamp or an engineer's stamp.


Does this change by parish? Because if so, I just built a house without either.
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
5809 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Does this change by parish? Because if so, I just built a house without either.


I suppose this could be the case. But most places are going to require stamped drawings
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:47 pm to
If it’s a rental find a plan the builder has built before and has the cost down to the nail.

Yes, generally lending institutions want to see scope of project you are asking them to back with several hundred thousand dollars. On an investment property they may want as much as 25% down, but the value of lot would go towards that number
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 4:50 pm
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Agreed on the drafter part. We printed out some plans from online and gave it to a guy who charged us $350 to make it into blue prints with some changes. $350k house.


It amazes me what people feel the need to cheap out on. You probably spent way more on change orders, bad designs, etc than you saved by not using a qualified professional. Nobody with experience would charge only $350. I mean, how much time do you really think they spent ripping off these “online plans” you found?
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14450 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:58 pm to
Yes. Requirements can vary by municipality.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 10:00 pm
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