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re: ASTS, meme stock or real stock?

Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:12 am to
Posted by Crescent Connection
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:12 am to
From Kevin Mak…

Fundamentally this convertible debt offering isn't bullish or bearish.

The company needs $2-4B over the next 3 years to build out the constellation. They aren't going to get all of it via ExIm non-dilutive financing. Most of it will come from equity issuances, debt issuances, and mixed (convertible) issuances. This isn't uncertain, this is a reality.

Exactly how they time out that fundraising is uncertain. "Do we take the money now, or do we announce x,y,z and hope the stock goes up and then issue shares later?" Obviously waiting for the price to be higher is more aggressive and beneficial but also more risky.

Given they were happily selling shares via the ATM at $30 just a few weeks ago, doing a convert for shares at $70+ is a very reasonable thing to do. It's also not crazy to wait 3 months and hope for a better price (and risk getting a worse price).

Abel's track record is to "take money while it's there, and take more money than you need, because you always need more money". So this isn't uncharacteristic at all. Some investors see them as having $1.5B of cash, other see them as needing another $1.5B of cash. The answer is both are true.

There's really not much to "read into" this event.

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Mechanically, this is essentially a share issuance and causes a supply/demand shock (about 6m shares coming into the market overnight to be sold). So the price falls to reflect that shock. That's not surprising, and also not bullish or bearish.

However, how aggressively the stock is bought or sold (buy the dip, or run away because the momo is gone) will be rather telling in the coming days about the investor sentiment around the stock. My best guess and positioning is the stock finds its footing and doesn't crater.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:17 am to
quote:

ok bought a small position around 55.78
jumped in at 55.70 :LEGGO:
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10857 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 9:38 am to
Added a few more at 54
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35909 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 10:59 am to
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That’s what gets investors in trouble.


No, what you're doing is what gets investors in trouble (see your note above about AUPH for exhibit A).
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35909 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:01 am to
quote:

fareplay


That baw and his wife bring in close to a million a year, I believe, despite him sounding borderline illiterate with some of his posts. Just ask him.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 11:08 am to
quote:

That baw and his wife bring in close to a million a year, I believe, despite him sounding borderline illiterate with some of his posts. Just ask him.


Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25273 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:00 pm to
I have one share that I paid $5 for just to watch it.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 10:11 pm to
still holding my shares. thing has went from 61 to 51. small dip

need this thing to shoot back up
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175998 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:41 pm to
Somebody wake this dog up
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4539 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:17 pm to
You just need to wait for them to announce their next big collab….ASTS powered by OKLO.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by Crescent Connection
Member since Jun 2008
2325 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 5:36 pm to
ASTS is up 108% since May 30. ER Monday AH. Guidance will start the run back up with a $70 target by end of September.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4539 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

ASTS is up 108% since May 30


And that’s with $500mil in additional dilution.

…a $75 dollar stock for a company whose revenue consists of a $20 mil contract with AT&T.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91385 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 6:44 pm to
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ASTS is up 108% since May 30. ER Monday AH. Guidance will start the run back up with a $70 target by end of September.


Says you?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

Guidance will start the run back up with a $70 target by end of September.


Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175998 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:01 pm to
Pumping AH

CC can take the rope off his neck
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 7:02 pm
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32511 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:09 pm to
Investors liked the earnings release
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:15 pm to
51.30 after hours trading
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
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10857 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:45 pm to
Still holding let’s go
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:08 am to
53.74
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