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re: After this weeks earnings..is it wise to move some from S&P mutual fund to a money market

Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60885 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:59 pm to
LOL.
That pull back just feels like it will be soon! It’s almost there. It’s really close.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90105 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:44 am to
With all due respect, your posts on this board imply buy and hold is the way to go.
Posted by SuckerPunch
Member since Feb 2024
927 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:18 am to
Thanks for the responses. Makes my decision a little easier. Buy and hold for the long haul and dont try to time it.
Posted by KennytheTiger
bella vista ar
Member since Apr 2012
413 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:53 am to
3 bucket approach always worked for me.

1. Short term ,emergency fund money. Money that I might spend in next year or two.

2. Medium term. Money in my play account. Make a few changes. Although, I held some of my winners for 10+ years. I am mostly buy and hold and seldom pay short term cap gain taxes even in this bucket.

3. Long term. Buy and hold forever. This is by far the majority of my money. S&p 500, Russell 1000 type money. Probably 80% of my money.

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
18481 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:27 am to
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Ok let me rephrase….do u guys think having some cash sit on the sidelines is a good strategy in case of a pullback or crash?


If it crashes your money on the sideline will be worth about as much as construction paper.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38823 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:56 am to
The whole timing thing is always so funny because in order to time it correctly you will have to buy back in when shite looks like it's only going to go further down. Just look at general retail sentiment in late 2022 and early 2023. Most were saying it was a dead cat bounce and fresh new lows were right around the corner.


If it does actually correct/crash while you are on the sidelines, you will almost 100% miss out on the biggest green days during the recovery because they are going to come out of "nowhere" while you and most others believe the darkest days are yet to come.


It's always better to be invested on the green days than it is to be on the sidelines on the red days.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11677 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 1:01 pm to


What exactly are you seeing? Stay away from small caps and you're fine.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90105 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

The whole timing thing is always so funny because in order to time it correctly you will have to buy back in when shite looks like it's only going to go further down. Just look at general retail sentiment in late 2022 and early 2023. Most were saying it was a dead cat bounce and fresh new lows were right around the corner.


You don’t see a lot of posts from those guys who could see 2022 coming from a mile away because they’re still in cash with a couple O&G stocks sprinkled in.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45834 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 11:16 am to
My brother just did this recently. Moved his entire 401k into a money market account within his 401k. He asked me my thoughts before doing it and I told him he's a fricking dumbass if he does it. He insisted that he would be better for it. He did it anyway and has since bought back in at a lower price. He claims he made the right choice but now he's lost all his dollar cost averaging and such. He's happy with his decision but I still think he made a mistake doing it. Only time will tell.

I'll tell you the same thing -- you're a dumbass if you do this. Just keep investing each month whether it's up or down and one day you'll be happy. Don't try to time the market.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 11:56 am to
quote:

He did it anyway and has since bought back in at a lower price. He claims he made the right choice but now he's lost all his dollar cost averaging and such.

I’m confused. If he did it and bought back in lower then it did work out for him.

I don’t know what “lost all his dollar cost averaging” means if he’s already back in the market. It’s a 401k so you’re not talking about his cost basis.


I wouldn’t recommend him doing it again but it sounds like it did work out that time unless I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 11:57 am
Posted by SuckerPunch
Member since Feb 2024
927 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:05 pm to
Agree…i think he came out ahead if he was able to exit the market then reenter at a lower price point. No capital gains tax bc he did no pull out of 401k. Win win. Based on history of the S&P…the 3rd quarter is when it drops…11 out of the last 31 yrs..the 3rd quarter has lost money (%), so the track record is there
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 12:54 pm to
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11 out of the last 31 yrs

35% of the time?

Not great odds there
Posted by SuckerPunch
Member since Feb 2024
927 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 1:02 pm to
But if u look at it across the board…the 3rd quarter has performed the worst out of any quarter
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

But if u look at it across the board…the 3rd quarter has performed the worst out of any quarter

Ok? But why is that relevant in this discussion?
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7616 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 1:33 pm to
Because less than most of the time, you might have an oppurtunity to catch lower prices one arbitrary day in q3 vs the arbitrary day not in q3 you are selling. :shrug:
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