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re: 5 Reasons Renting Still Beats Buying
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:47 am to TortiousTiger
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:47 am to TortiousTiger
yeah. Depending on where you live, the guy comes and looks at the house, looks at some nearby houses that were sold "recently," and pulls a number out of his arse (making sure to err on the side of more taxes).
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:48 am to Cold Cous Cous
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making sure to err on the side of more taxes).
Actually, appraisers are just erring on the side of getting you the biggest loan possible (at least they were).
They don't give a whoot about taxes.
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:48 am to Cold Cous Cous
Ok so maintenance costs, A total whopping $150 in 2 years. All of my money will never be tied up in my house. As I stated earlier, your house note or rent note in this case shouldn't cover that much of your salary. My note with escrow included is 1151 a month. The cheapest I could rent a house in the area that I am in would be 900 so yes I will pay an extra 251 per month to be owning something.
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:50 am to LSU1018
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so yes I will pay an extra 251 per month to be owning something.
So you're willing to forego 45K over the 15 years + any investment gains you would have made on that money + money for major repairs that you WILL eventually have to make?
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:50 am to LSU1018
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The cheapest I could rent a house in the area that I am in would be 900 so yes I will pay an extra 251 per month to be owning something.
Apparently you are an idiot.... all you have to do is drive west on I 10 about 60-70 miles and you can buy a house with your said 1150 payment and rent that bad boy out for a minimum of $1530.
What are you thinking?
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:51 am to igoringa
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Apparently you are an idiot.... all you have to do is drive west on I 10 about 60-70 miles and you can buy a house with your said 1150 payment and rent that bad boy out for a minimum of $1530.
What are you thinking?
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:52 am to Tiger JJ
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So you're willing to forego 45K over the 15 years + any investment gains you would have made on that money + money for major repairs that you WILL eventually have to make?
I get amazed how people act like their roof, AC, waterheater, pipes, appliances, whatever never go out when factoring in their cost of ownership... they will infer a $250 for 2 years, but when they need $3K for new AC... I doubt they extrapolate that. Accrual accounting for all!
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:54 am to Tiger JJ
Well if you haven't noticed, if you had your money in investments the last 2 years, you are hurting just as bad as if you were in the worst housing market. So yes, I am willing to forego 45K to say that if you look at it from a 20 year time frame. Just saving the house note from year 16 to year 20 will have made up that 45K, not saying that I will have equity to what my house is worth.
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:55 am to igoringa
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Accrual accounting for all!
Voodoo maths.
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:56 am to LSU1018
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Well if you haven't noticed, if you had your money in investments the last 2 years, you are hurting just as bad as if you were in the worst housing market.
I've noticed that I haven't been in the stock market either. You are the one who insists on being invested in bubbles.
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So yes, I am willing to forego 45K to say that if you look at it from a 20 year time frame. Just saving the house note from year 16 to year 20 will have made up that 45K, not saying that I will have equity to what my house is worth.
It will have made it up ONLY if the 45K hasn't grown and ONLY if the house hasn't one down in value and ONLY if you have had no substantial maintenance.
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:57 am to kfizzle85
So honestly, are you saying that in my situation, that you would sell my house now and start renting?
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:57 am to LSU1018
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Well if you haven't noticed, if you had your money in investments the last 2 years, you are hurting just as bad as if you were in the worst housing market.
Really I have had capital gains the last 2 years... oh yes I forgot this was all unforseeable. I also note you directed this towards JT who presented the investment opportunity of a lifetime a few years back (to high rollers :P ) based on this exactly happening... but please continue
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:58 am to LSU1018
Ok so what are you investing in... Treasuries, the Euro?
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:59 am to igoringa
Listserve from my landlord:
"I have never had a “rental season” where so many leases were renewed so the selection is not as large as normal
As of this notice, only two properties are available for June 1, one for July 1 and several tentatively for August 1."
AVAILABLE JUNE
11 1267 Arlington- 2 Garden District 3BR, 1 BA, LR-DR,Util Room 1123 June 1, 2008 $1,350 Included Yard
12 1612 S. Acadian Garden District 4BR, 2 BA, LR, DR,BK,carport, util shed 2035 June 1, 2008 $1,800 Includes Yard
13 4761 Mimosa Southdowns 4BR,2BA, LR, DR,Kitchen,Laundry,Foyer 2200 June 15, 2008 $2,000
AVAILABLE AUGUST- TENTATIVE LIST ONLY
17 3238 Morning Glory-APT University Gardens 1BR or 2BR, 1 BA, LR-DR,Kit,Den,Office 1000 August 1, 2008 $1,200 Includes water, gas, elect,sewer,yd
18 2365 Honeysuckle Garden District 5 or 4 BR, 2 BA, LR-DR, storage shed 1666 August 1, 2008 $1,800 Includes Yard
19 3437 Hundred Oaks Garden District 6-7 BR, 3 BA, LR, DR, large den, storage, carport 3015 August 1, 2008 $2,400 Includes Yard
20 2377 Honeysuckle Garden District 3BR 1 BA 1100 August 1,2008 $1,300 Includes Yard
please tell me how he isnt making bank?
"I have never had a “rental season” where so many leases were renewed so the selection is not as large as normal
As of this notice, only two properties are available for June 1, one for July 1 and several tentatively for August 1."
AVAILABLE JUNE
11 1267 Arlington- 2 Garden District 3BR, 1 BA, LR-DR,Util Room 1123 June 1, 2008 $1,350 Included Yard
12 1612 S. Acadian Garden District 4BR, 2 BA, LR, DR,BK,carport, util shed 2035 June 1, 2008 $1,800 Includes Yard
13 4761 Mimosa Southdowns 4BR,2BA, LR, DR,Kitchen,Laundry,Foyer 2200 June 15, 2008 $2,000
AVAILABLE AUGUST- TENTATIVE LIST ONLY
17 3238 Morning Glory-APT University Gardens 1BR or 2BR, 1 BA, LR-DR,Kit,Den,Office 1000 August 1, 2008 $1,200 Includes water, gas, elect,sewer,yd
18 2365 Honeysuckle Garden District 5 or 4 BR, 2 BA, LR-DR, storage shed 1666 August 1, 2008 $1,800 Includes Yard
19 3437 Hundred Oaks Garden District 6-7 BR, 3 BA, LR, DR, large den, storage, carport 3015 August 1, 2008 $2,400 Includes Yard
20 2377 Honeysuckle Garden District 3BR 1 BA 1100 August 1,2008 $1,300 Includes Yard
please tell me how he isnt making bank?
Posted on 3/10/09 at 10:59 am to LSU1018
I hope to god that's sarcasm.
Posted on 3/10/09 at 11:00 am to LSU1018
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Ok so what are you investing in... Treasuries, the Euro?
Igoringa invested all his money in those gold coins with Obama stamped on them.
Posted on 3/10/09 at 11:00 am to TortiousTiger
I actually know someone who rents (or used to rent) one of those Hundred Oaks houses. 
Posted on 3/10/09 at 11:00 am to LSU1018
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So honestly, are you saying that in my situation, that you would sell my house now and start renting?
Depends on the facts and circumstances (where have I heard that before).
But if you think you can make get out with a profit comparable to the appraisal you cited, and can rent the comparable for $250 less, then at this juncture it is a valid thought (unless you think your house will remain immune to the remaining downleg)
Posted on 3/10/09 at 11:01 am to LSU1018
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Just a little
It's quite hard to tell, to be honest.
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