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401k Transfer to New Employer’s Plan
Posted on 6/27/18 at 8:15 am
Posted on 6/27/18 at 8:15 am
I’m looking to transfer my 401k from previous employer account to new employers account. I’ve never transferred 401ks before. Is there anything I should look out for or any different transfers I should consider?
My new plan allows for pre-tax contributions, after tax contributions, and Roth 401k contributions. I’ve only ever done pre-tax. Would it be recommended to do after tax or Roth 401k instead of pretax?
As far as the transfer itself, does my old account basically sell off all investments then that balance gets transferred to the new account?
My new plan allows for pre-tax contributions, after tax contributions, and Roth 401k contributions. I’ve only ever done pre-tax. Would it be recommended to do after tax or Roth 401k instead of pretax?
As far as the transfer itself, does my old account basically sell off all investments then that balance gets transferred to the new account?
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:06 am to Virgo
Transfer the old 401k to a traditional IRA.
Roth 401k is usually best choice if you have that option.
Roth 401k is usually best choice if you have that option.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:11 am to Virgo
People on here MUCH smarter than myself can probably answer better, but when I've had to do this I first contacted the company managing my new company's retirement accounts adn they walked me through everything. There were some forms to fill out, sign, and fax to I believe the previous employer's retirment company, then the 2 companies figure everything out themselves and transfer it over. At least that's how I remember it, it's been a few years.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:18 am to Virgo
What's the new company Match?
I'd highly recommend transferring into a Traditional IRA, gives you more control of investment options, etc.
I'd highly recommend transferring into a Traditional IRA, gives you more control of investment options, etc.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:26 am to Virgo
As has been pointed out, transfer to a traditional IRA.
It's the same thing except you'll most likely have more investment options available to you.
It's the same thing except you'll most likely have more investment options available to you.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:08 am to castorinho
Company matches 6%.
So transfer old 401k balance to transitional IRA, then use Roth 401k for current employer retirement account?
So transfer old 401k balance to transitional IRA, then use Roth 401k for current employer retirement account?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:24 am to Virgo
Anyone have any suggestions on which traditional ira company to transfer the old 401K to?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:29 am to lighter345
Most all use Vanguard or Fidelity. I use Fidelity and love it but you can’t really go wrong with either.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:31 am to Virgo
It's a balancing act, and a lot depends on your current income and future income expectations.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:23 pm to lighter345
quote:
Anyone have any suggestions on which traditional ira company to transfer the old 401K to?
Schwab intelligent ETF IRA is free and awesome.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:32 pm to lighter345
quote:
Anyone have any suggestions on which traditional ira company to transfer the old 401K to?
for simplicity's sake, i'd probably keep it with the company you currently have it with, assuming they offer IRA's and are reputable
option 2 would be to transfer to IRA at whatever firm your current employer uses, with the same caveats above
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:55 pm to PillPusher
My existing 401k is with fidelity. I also have a vanguard account with a Roth IRA, but my income combined with wife’s income is more than the limit allows.
Should I consider backdoor to this existing Roth IRA?
Should I consider backdoor to this existing Roth IRA?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:01 pm to Virgo
quote:That's great. That'll make it simple, I'd just keep it with fidelity
My existing 401k is with fidelity. I also have a vanguard account with a Roth IRA, but my income combined with wife’s income is more than the limit allows.
quote:
Should I consider backdoor to this existing Roth IRA?
Consider? Absolutely. But be aware of the tax implications.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/27/18 at 1:05 pm to Virgo
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My existing 401k is with fidelity
also, keep in mind, that if you are happy with your current investments, you really don't have to do anything at all
let it go and let it grow
sometimes the funds available in your 401K plans are not available in the same structure in an IRA
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:13 pm to Croacka
Thanks for the suggestions
Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:59 am to Chris4x4gill2
quote:
Transfer the old 401k to a traditional IRA.
Roth 401k is usually best choice if you have that option.
Best advice.
You will have much more flexibility in an IRA with Fidelity or Vanguard.
Also, Roth 401k will diversify you in terms of tax obligations at retirement.
Posted on 6/29/18 at 1:54 pm to Virgo
Two main things I tell people to look at -
1. Your rollover into the new company's plan may not be available to you in a rainy day. There is no requirement the new company allow you to withdraw that rollover until you have a distributal event - which can be when you leave the company. I would check with HR on that and/or read the SPD.
2. A lot of times you can get a cheaper rate by doing it as an IRA. But not always. So I would carefully look at the fee disclosure for the new plan and see what the total fees are. Compare that to your IRA options.
1. Your rollover into the new company's plan may not be available to you in a rainy day. There is no requirement the new company allow you to withdraw that rollover until you have a distributal event - which can be when you leave the company. I would check with HR on that and/or read the SPD.
2. A lot of times you can get a cheaper rate by doing it as an IRA. But not always. So I would carefully look at the fee disclosure for the new plan and see what the total fees are. Compare that to your IRA options.
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