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re: 30,20 or 15 year mortage?

Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by bryso
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:40 pm to
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Then this is absolutely the way to go.



meh
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:40 pm to
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Most of the principal gets paid off at the end of the mortgage. Therefore you still have a tax advantage for the first 8 years and then depreciating rapidly after that.


This.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:41 pm to
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Most of the principal gets paid off at the end of the mortgage. Therefore you still have a tax advantage for the first 8 years and then depreciating rapidly after that.
Sound advice.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:41 pm to
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$135,000.00 home,$50,000 down.
4.35 on the 15 and 4.75 on the 30.

15 year mortgage @ 4.35% = $115,874.47

30 year mortgage @ 4.75% = $159,624.08

You save $43,749.61 and 15 years
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:42 pm to
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meh


Right, who cares about the incredible interest savings and quick payoff?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:42 pm to
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bryso


I understand what you are saying...basically taking into account opportunity cost.

But you are also assuming that he will be able to invest, earning at a greater rate than a 4.35%+ (I don't want to do anymore calculations, but you are assuming you can actually earn greater than the interest payments in investment)
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:43 pm to
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9Fiddy


Did you take them back to Present Value so that you compare apples to apples.......
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:45 pm to
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Did you take them back to Present Value so that you compare apples to apples.......
This sounds fricking awesome because I have absolutly no idea what this is.
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:46 pm to
The correct answer is do the 15-yr and this thread is fricking OVA!!!

shite, you're only financing $85K. That's a fricking Mercedes, not a home mortgage.

If you finance $85K over 30 years, you're either broke or retarded.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66500 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:46 pm to
Nah, just simple mortgage calculator with the loan amount of $85K, the interest rate, and the terms. That did not include the prop tax or the PMI
This post was edited on 2/2/10 at 7:48 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25032 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:46 pm to
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This sounds fricking awesome because I have absolutly no idea what this is.



I'll go find my financial calculator and see what I can figure.
Posted by bryso
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:46 pm to
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Right, who cares about the incredible interest savings and quick payoff?



what if he takes the $ difference in payments and invests it.... just sayin.
Posted by lectric eye
Mountaintop
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:46 pm to
The spread in the interest rates is something to consider.

You may want to take a 30 year note and make sure you don't have pre-payment penalties. That way you can pay as if it is a 15 year mortgage and get the benefit of paying the loan off early. But you keep the flexibility of adjusting to the required payment based on the 30 year note if something comes up (job loss, a kid, etc.).

Also, if you believe there is a chance that the US govt is going to print a ton of money resulting inflation (sooner or later it always has), having US denominated debt is not a bad thing.
This post was edited on 2/2/10 at 7:47 pm
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:47 pm to
What lectric says is exactly what I would recommend. Great recommendation.
Posted by bryso
Member since Dec 2006
27136 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:49 pm to
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assuming


gotta do that on a day to day basis.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25032 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:49 pm to
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what if he takes the $ difference in payments and invests it.... just sayin.



This assumes he is ok with more risk is his life; Even if he could invest in T-bills (which he cannot given they are basically paying no interest) and technically make more on the back end than doing a 15 year mortgage, is adds some complexity that he may not see worth it.

In principle though, you could be correct. I'd have to run a lot of numbers to figure it out.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:49 pm to
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You may want to take a 30 year note and make sure you don't have pre-payment penalties. That way you can pay as if it is a 15 year mortgage and get the benefit of paying the loan off early. But you keep the flexibility of adjusting to the required payment based on the 30 year note if something comes up (job loss, a kid, etc.).

Also, if you believe there is a chance that the US govt is going to print a ton of money resulting inflation (sooner or later it always has), having US denominated debt is not a bad thing.

Hence bringing my delima to the OT.
Some of y'all are wicked brilliant.
Posted by bryso
Member since Dec 2006
27136 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:49 pm to
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If you finance $85K over 30 years, you're either broke or retarded.



what if it is at 0%?


you're the retarded one.
Posted by bryso
Member since Dec 2006
27136 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:51 pm to
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In principle though, you could be correct. I'd have to run a lot of numbers to figure it out.



and assume a lot... but i am just sayin...
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25032 posts
Posted on 2/2/10 at 7:51 pm to
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The spread in the interest rates is something to consider.

You may want to take a 30 year note and make sure you don't have pre-payment penalties. That way you can pay as if it is a 15 year mortgage and get the benefit of paying the loan off early. But you keep the flexibility of adjusting to the required payment based on the 30 year note if something comes up (job loss, a kid, etc.).

Also, if you believe there is a chance that the US govt is going to print a ton of money resulting inflation (sooner or later it always has), having US denominated debt is not a bad thing.



Very good points.

You really need a financial advisor to sit down with you to go through all the pros and cons. It is hard for everyone on this board to have the necessary information to give you the "right" decision.
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