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re: YouTube: The alleged LSU brawl video. (updated with EXTENDED VERSION)

Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:01 pm to
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if an LSU player is involved in the fight, he should be suspended

i think the cause of the fight makes a huge difference
Posted by That LSU Guy
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:01 pm to
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You don't have a problem with these huge, super-athletic football players going around fighting regular dudes in college bars?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:01 pm to
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I have no issue with fighting to protect


protecting is kicking people on the ground that are considerably smaller than you?

c'mon man...
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:02 pm to
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BUT there are also eyewitnesses that say JJ was the peacemaker, that he wasn't the one that kicked the dude in the head. So my thing is, who do you believe?
taken everything we have seen and heard about JJ, i think this is faaaaar more plausible
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:02 pm to
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for what exactly? in this country, we don't convict without due process

I think he is talking from the team suspension angle, not the legal process.

This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:03 pm to
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I agree.

The guy on the ground getting kicked did not look unconscious though. Was that part of the story?

I heard the one knocked out was by a punch to the face, take that FWIW.

Stomping is a barbaric act and shouldnt be a part of LSU period.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:03 pm to
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protecting is kicking people on the ground that are considerably smaller than you?

c'mon man...


lol yeah, like he's gonna give him a hand up.

nobody ever just sits there after you knock someone down, unless he's frickin out. which this dude wasn't. you can be on the ground and not defenseless.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 9:04 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:04 pm to
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i think the cause of the fight makes a huge difference



That is fair, but can you think of any "cause" that would require kicking someone on the ground?

Look, I am not comparing this to attempted murder or some other bullshite, but that type of decision should get you left at home for the season opener, at least!
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:04 pm to
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I think he us talking from the team suspension angle, not the legal process.

you assume.

so this guy wants to suspend JJ when he very well may have been breaking up the fight? come on, man
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:04 pm to
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One thing I did realize is: If the guy was kicked behind the head then the broken Vertebrae couldnt be Lumbar, they would have to be the upper ones I would think. JMO


all was said was vertebrae fractures.

didn't specify C T, L, S...
Posted by TIGRLEE
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:04 pm to
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"Hey! Hey hey hey hey hey 5 0 50 50 50 50 50 Jordan! 50! Jeff jeff 50 jeff 50! Come on! COme on! Come on!"


I said this two hours ago.
Some of these tards weren't having it.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:05 pm to
I hear JUHvis JUHvis
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:05 pm to
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Lumbar would be the result of being stomped on the lower back

which would surely leave a bruise, and possible tread pattern. Therefore, resulting in bags of sneakers being removed from the perps residence?
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:05 pm to
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That is fair, but can you think of any "cause" that would require kicking someone on the ground?

there is no excuse for that, but considering we don't know who did the kicking, perhaps the executioners should just hold up until we know more
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:05 pm to
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I said this two hours ago.
Some of these tards weren't having it.


i think the people who hear 'jefferson' are the minority. most seem to here '5-0' and some 'jarvo...jarvis'

fwiw, i'd rather jefferson gone than jarvis landry.
Posted by firejohnbrady
Chocolate City
Member since Dec 2007
863 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:06 pm to
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which would surely leave a bruise, and possible tread pattern. Therefore, resulting in bags of sneakers being removed from the perps residence?


dude, this isn't fricking CSI. where do you get this shite? even if the 'tread' (days later) matched jeffersons shoes -- it means absolutely zero. how many people at the bar that night wear the same size X shoe?
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 9:07 pm
Posted by b rod lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4903 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:06 pm to

I have watched this a dozen times now, and I still can't pick out anything visually (even on the high res video), but I can definitely make out the, "Jeff, Jeff, 5-0, 5-0, Jeff"
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30367 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:07 pm to
Do we even know for sure the guy that was kicked is the one with the fractures?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:07 pm to
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nobody ever just sits there after you knock someone down, unless he's frickin out. which this dude wasn't. you can be on the ground and not defenseless.


Dude there were 15-20 LSU players at the scene. Let's say that the "victims" were the aggressors - how fricking stupid would they have to be to pick that fight?

The dude was on the ground and was clearly making no attempt to get up. I am not saying JJ or any other football player kicked him, but the video shows that it happened and it was unnecessary.
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