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Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:59 pm to boweswi05
i know he was 3-21 but if he beat bama and go 5-0 then we gone give his 3-21 arse an opportunity, you win and nobody gives a flip is all im saying.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:26 pm to Jonburris81
Here are my thoughts. Give the guy a two year contract. Recruiting won't hurt that much so if the wins aren't there the talent won't be completely gone from the program.
And about the wins. Every single one of you Miles hating fricks said anybody can win 10 games here. hell most of you sit behind a computer screen and post bullshite about how you know every play we run before it is ran. So why now all of a sudden, you don't think Orgeron can get it done? We supposedly had a very bad coach who is an idiot have the second most wins in program history, is the only coach to play for two national titles and is only the 2nd coach to ever finish AP #1.
And about the wins. Every single one of you Miles hating fricks said anybody can win 10 games here. hell most of you sit behind a computer screen and post bullshite about how you know every play we run before it is ran. So why now all of a sudden, you don't think Orgeron can get it done? We supposedly had a very bad coach who is an idiot have the second most wins in program history, is the only coach to play for two national titles and is only the 2nd coach to ever finish AP #1.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:27 pm to dgnx6
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Give the guy a 2 year contract
Credibility revoked.
We are a program that relies on recruiting to sustain success, we can't give a guy a trial session at head coach
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:28 pm to Txtiger54
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One more thought, Trey Quinn & others would not have transferred out,
No way you know if they even sign with LSU with a different staff.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:32 pm to wildtigercat93
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We are a program that relies on recruiting to sustain success, we can't give a guy a trial session at head coach
How many years were left on Miles contract? 2 more after this? Seems they were recruiting just fine. Hell he was a dead man walking already.
But on the flip side, you guys basically want to throw money at a dude who hasn't proven he can run a big time program. And how many years you give him? And if he falls flat on his face, how many years you paying that guy to not coach at your school?
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:33 pm to dgnx6
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. Give the guy a two year contract.
Say goodbye to 90% of our current and future commits with this idiotic idea. Yeah let's go play for a coach who probably won't be there our last 2 years.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:34 pm to dgnx6
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How many years were left on Miles contract? 2 more after this? Seems they were recruiting just fine.
That might be because Miles was our coach for 12 years. Call me crazy, but I don't think those are comparable situations
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money at a dude who hasn't proven he can run a big time program.
you talking about Ed O?
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:35 pm to 7nette
Hey dumbass, all those kids that signed in February, didn't have a coach after 4 fricking games into their career. Y'all didn't care about recruiting at the end of last season or this season.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:37 pm to wildtigercat93
Will ed o cost as much as Herman? Herman will probably cost more than Miles.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:39 pm to dgnx6
You don't pay miles 12 million dollars to go away and then start counting pennies. The decision will not be made on money
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:42 pm to dgnx6
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Y'all didn't care about recruiting at the end of last season or this season.
citation required.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:02 am to 7nette
Y'all as in people that wanted him fired during the season.
If the team finishes string, you keep o and staff you prob don't hurt recruiting too much. But it could go either way with a new staff. No guarantees, so using recruiting is such a bullshite excuse. You have no idea if a guy like Herman will keep the recruiting train going.
Plus this is all based on anyone can win here, so coach O would win enough games to remain the coach any way.
If the team finishes string, you keep o and staff you prob don't hurt recruiting too much. But it could go either way with a new staff. No guarantees, so using recruiting is such a bullshite excuse. You have no idea if a guy like Herman will keep the recruiting train going.
Plus this is all based on anyone can win here, so coach O would win enough games to remain the coach any way.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:13 am to dgnx6
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Y'all as in people that wanted him fired during the season.
Wanting to fire a HC during the season isn't nearly the same as having a HC with only a 2 year contract. If we fired Les last year we would've had a new HC in December with a 4 year contract able to talk to the recruits into staying. How are you going to convince someone to commit to 4 years if you're only guaranteed to half of that?
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You have no idea if a guy like Herman will keep the recruiting train going.
Houston is currently ranked #35 for their 2017 class. As a point of reference, Ole Miss is ranked #34 and Louisville is ranked #36. But yeah he's probably not going to be able to recruit at one of the easiest schools to recruit for.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:45 am to Jonburris81
If coach O wins out, the job is automatically his. If coach O has one or two losses, then we offer Jimbo first, Herman second. If both of them turn it down, then the jobs is coach O’s. If coach O loses three games, then he is out of the running for the head coach position altogether. Hopefully, he will remain at LSU. I think he will. He’s no dummy, he knows the score and he loves LSU.
As far as OC goes, I’ll leave that decision up to the new head coach whoever he is.
As far as OC goes, I’ll leave that decision up to the new head coach whoever he is.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 2:12 am to 7nette
The reason why Miles has a good won/loss record is not because he is a good coach. Instead, it's because he was at LSU more than anything else.
Meanwhile, had we had a decent coach as opposed to Miles, I bet we would have won one or two more national championships.
Now, let's forget about Miles because he is history thank God, and any coach we get is going to be a better coach than Miles ever was, whether it's coach O, coach Fisher, coach Herman, or someone else.
Meanwhile, had we had a decent coach as opposed to Miles, I bet we would have won one or two more national championships.
Now, let's forget about Miles because he is history thank God, and any coach we get is going to be a better coach than Miles ever was, whether it's coach O, coach Fisher, coach Herman, or someone else.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 2:28 am to dgnx6
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We supposedly had a very bad coach who is an idiot have the second most wins in program history, is the only coach to play for two national titles and is only the 2nd coach to ever finish AP #1.
You got it exactly backwards, Miles accomplishments is because he was at LSU, not because he was a good coach because he obviously was not. Had we had a decent coach during the same time frame that Miles was here, I bet we would have one or two more national championships.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 2:35 am to Jonburris81
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take Kiffin
really?
why?
down vote on Kiffen.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 2:44 am to FIRE_coachesname
Herman is still dealing with an average talented team who has avg just one loss a season while beating much inferior teams
So what if they lost on the road to a team who has won a ton straight at home. They were competitive regardless of their miscues. It's ridiculously tough for them to go undefeated. He maximizes his talent the best.
You saw what he did when he had elite talent versus elite defenses. He knows how to scheme against them. Herman with this type of talent sbd the great DCs LSU is able to get it a tremendous fit.
I want an x and o's coach
Not always a rah rah guy
Coordinators will come and go but if you have an elite offensive or defensive coach you don't ever have to worry about that side of the ball when they leave. Urban will always have elite offenses and Saban will always have elite defenses.. regardless of coordinators leaving..
LSU attracts far better DC than OC IMO so give me the offensive genius who has shown he can beat elite defenses with similar talent. Even when he has to do it in short notice with backup qbs.
Coach o is the great coach to take over now with an absolutely loaded LSU team with nothing to lose.. playing lose and having fun. I still prefer Herman if he wants the coach.
I don't care if Houston won a close game and lost another close game. They were never a really talented team. They are just well coached and beat much superior teams because of it. With better talent and a beast DC it's hard to beat that combo. Herman is a gym who can scheme to best Saban on a consistent basis. Give me him and Aranda all day.
So what if they lost on the road to a team who has won a ton straight at home. They were competitive regardless of their miscues. It's ridiculously tough for them to go undefeated. He maximizes his talent the best.
You saw what he did when he had elite talent versus elite defenses. He knows how to scheme against them. Herman with this type of talent sbd the great DCs LSU is able to get it a tremendous fit.
I want an x and o's coach
Not always a rah rah guy
Coordinators will come and go but if you have an elite offensive or defensive coach you don't ever have to worry about that side of the ball when they leave. Urban will always have elite offenses and Saban will always have elite defenses.. regardless of coordinators leaving..
LSU attracts far better DC than OC IMO so give me the offensive genius who has shown he can beat elite defenses with similar talent. Even when he has to do it in short notice with backup qbs.
Coach o is the great coach to take over now with an absolutely loaded LSU team with nothing to lose.. playing lose and having fun. I still prefer Herman if he wants the coach.
I don't care if Houston won a close game and lost another close game. They were never a really talented team. They are just well coached and beat much superior teams because of it. With better talent and a beast DC it's hard to beat that combo. Herman is a gym who can scheme to best Saban on a consistent basis. Give me him and Aranda all day.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 2:53 am to anchovyd
He's a huge part of Ohio St's championship idiot
He changed their entire offense midseason to cater to personnel and he whipped the shite out of Wisconsin and Alabama because of it and well as the National Chsnpionship
Did you really say other guys players? Have you seen his record with 3 star players versus ranked opponents. It's phenomenal. He even beat Jimbo and Stoops h2h here lately
He's still working with much inferior talent
My goodness no coach is perfect have you see Sabans years at Michigan St. very up and down with blowout losses
At least his loss was competitive and to a fringe ranked team on the road with a massive home winning streak
Houston is really not that talented this season tbh. Great qb who he built up (3star) but has had injuries and a great freshman dt.
LSU would look like Ohio st's elite offenses and Houston of last season under Herman and don't say it was against poor teams. He's taken it some good defenses including one of the very best
So want LSU to hire an offensive mastermind or defensive mastermind so you never have to worry about replacing that coordinator
Herman and Aranda are the top two brilliant young minds in the game right now
Won't be long before Aranda is a HC IMO and LSU can find a top DC if needed IMO
He changed their entire offense midseason to cater to personnel and he whipped the shite out of Wisconsin and Alabama because of it and well as the National Chsnpionship
Did you really say other guys players? Have you seen his record with 3 star players versus ranked opponents. It's phenomenal. He even beat Jimbo and Stoops h2h here lately
He's still working with much inferior talent
My goodness no coach is perfect have you see Sabans years at Michigan St. very up and down with blowout losses
At least his loss was competitive and to a fringe ranked team on the road with a massive home winning streak
Houston is really not that talented this season tbh. Great qb who he built up (3star) but has had injuries and a great freshman dt.
LSU would look like Ohio st's elite offenses and Houston of last season under Herman and don't say it was against poor teams. He's taken it some good defenses including one of the very best
So want LSU to hire an offensive mastermind or defensive mastermind so you never have to worry about replacing that coordinator
Herman and Aranda are the top two brilliant young minds in the game right now
Won't be long before Aranda is a HC IMO and LSU can find a top DC if needed IMO
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