re: Wow....not much faith in Miles

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5. Kirk Ferentz

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1. Urban Meyer, Florida. Two BCS titles in three seasons, with another in his sights.

2. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma. No coach can match his four BCS title game appearances.

3. Nick Saban, Alabama. First, he made LSU a national power. Now, Saban has Alabama poised to be the nation's top program.

4. Pete Carroll, USC. No program dominates its conference more. The only thing missing? More BCS titles.

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As much as I dislike the little weasel, I can agree with #1. That's about it. Bob Stoops if the Marv Leavy of college football. With all of the resources at his disposal, in a talent laden state, Mack Brown has managed 1 NC. Same for Carrol. Kirk Ferentz at #5!? I'm surprised this arse hat didn't have Charlie Weiss in his top 10.

This list is a joke, Stoops over Carroll, really?

Chris Petersen #29 but Paterno #15 and SOS #21? Seriously?

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and Miles won w/ Saban's players, that you can't argue with.

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Yes you can, but if that's the case, then Meyer won with Zook's players, Sttobs with Blakes, Saban won last year with Shula's etc.

Sometimes its harder to maintain than to build.

With all due respect to Saban, I do think he is a better coach than Miles, but why did he have only 2 seasons in 5 with more 7 or more wins at Michigan State? Did he suddenly become a better coach at LSU or was it that LSU (and Alabama) offer a better recruiting base of talent, more football centric culture, is the biggest program in the state etc? Saban clearly helped LSU, but LSU helped Saban just as much.

So if you can't put Miles in the top 5, then how can you put Saban? He has 1 NC to Miles 1 and has less seasons under his belt with more than 11 victories?

Secondly, Miles has outrecruited Saban here at LSU in terms of star rankings in his tenure........

So the only thing we can say about Saban currently that Miles didn't do is..........rebuild LSU? Not a reason to be in the top 5.

Do I think Saban is a top 5 coach, nope.........Do I think Miles is........nope.

Do I think that both are top 10, yes.

Sorry yea, meant to swap those around, you can't tell me miles is a better coach than saban

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Totally BS, The writer possibly had a brain fart...

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No, you have to have a brain to have a brain fart.

In my opinion, a good head coach is one who adapts and manages the program that he has, regardless of the situation. If the program is stacked, a good coach will maintain and build on it. If it's weak, he'll recruit and build it up with better players. Mature team: give them some headway. Undisciplined team: crack some heads and lay down the law.

There are a number of coaches out there, like Saban, who are great at building programs, but suck at maintaining them. There are some who are excellent X and O guys who aren't great recruiters. There are some who are great recruiters who REALLY need good assistants to compensate for their less than stellar coaching acumen. Miles is the man for the job at LSU. Saban is the man for the job at Bama...until they get fed up with each other. Stoops can get OU to the big game on a regular basis, even if he does end up getting outcoached and outplayed when he gets there, usually by an SEC team.
Bottom line: rating these coaches is highly subjective and, frankly, means approximately dick. We have the right coach for this program. That's what matters.

I don't agree with this list either, but their description of Nick Saban explains the writer's mindset clearly... he believe that Les Miles has Nick Saban to thank for his success. It's a very common and tiring misconception.