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Would our offense look any different under Gus Malzhan?

Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:32 pm
Or is Crowton only playing the hand he is dealt.

-true sophmore qb with five starts
-Miles's Big 10 background
-Offensive line that has not gelled yet and that is being kind
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:34 pm to
yeah, he would be in control of all the misdirection of the offense that would ultimately end up with a play being called up the gut via miles' big 10 bloodlines.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:34 pm to
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Offensive line that has not gelled yet and that is being kind


the OL isn't nearly as horrible as everyone is acting like it is. It's gonna be hard for them to move 10 defenders out of the way to run the ball against any team.
Posted by Cornholio
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:35 pm to
I would love to have malzahn as o coordinator.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:37 pm to
I don't know, but MY GOD does Auburn look good with his guidance! This was supposed to be a typical "off year" AU team - good, tough defense with qb problems and depth issues/injuries on the other side of the ball. AUburn is playing ball like a Bobby Petrino Louisville team right now. They are definitely a team that I could see coming into Tiger Stadium and doing what Ole Miss did to us last year.
Posted by LSUFootballFANATIC
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:38 pm to
From your mouth to God's ears.
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:39 pm to
Gus Malzhan was coaching high school football just a few years ago.

Crowton accomplishments are a lot more impressive.
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:40 pm to
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I would love to have malzahn as o coordinator.


he's proven nothing yet at a BCS school.
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:40 pm to
malzhan created an offensive system that is sweeping the football world
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Gus Malzhan was coaching high school football just a few years ago.


what does this have to do with anything?


On topic though, I don't think our offense would look all that different, it would just be different formations for Miles to handcuff.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:42 pm to
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malzhan created an offensive system that is sweeping the football world


other than that.... what has he done?
Posted by Cornholio
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:43 pm to
What does him coaching HS a few years ago have to do with anything? Absolutely nothing. Everywhere he has coached on this level, his offenses have been very sucessful.
Posted by PiscesTiger
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:43 pm to
To answer the question, I think we'd be taking a lot more chances, making more penalties, but scoring a lot more points.

I could buy into this whole vanilla game - the let's not show Georgia and Florida anything, but I'm not sure I can do that.

GM would probably be using the hell out of Rusell Shepard and Ruben Randle. I would like to think that Keiland Williams would be his go to back, though. I think we'd see some similarities to Crowton, but instead of tiptoeing into the swimming pool, it'd be more of a jump on in. I think KW would get about 15 carries per game and Scott would get about 10. The rest of the offense would be divided on jailbreak screens and bubbles, Wildcat with Shep, spread option stuff, and vertical passing. I think we'd see 4 WR sets quite a bit (not much room for Dickson) and we'd see a lot of read option with Jefferson/Shepard and Keiland.

In other words, it would kick arse.
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:43 pm to
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what has he done?


lead an offense at arkansas that was pretty great
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:45 pm to
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malzhan created an offensive system that is sweeping the football world



so did Tony Franklin
Posted by LSUFootballFANATIC
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:46 pm to
Fish, I think you hit the nail on the head. Very good summary.
Posted by cardee2003
Baton Rouge/Tacoma,WA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:47 pm to
Yes, it would be different. GC is overrated
Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
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Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:49 pm to
This board is filled with idiots.
Posted by tigersandjets
New Orleans
Member since May 2007
734 posts
Posted on 9/20/09 at 8:57 pm to
what has gus malzahn done? let's see...:

-at arkansas, he developed the origins of the wildcat attack and developed 1st round picks darren mcfadden and felix jones

-he led the nation in offense each year he was at tulsa

-his auburn offense has not scored less than 37 points in 3 games this season... last year, auburn only scored more than 37 points once (against tennessee-martin, i think).

the dude is clearly a stellar offensive coach, and has excelled at two SEC schools.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 9/20/09 at 9:01 pm to
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Crowton accomplishments are a lot more impressive.


No, Crowton's job resume is. That doesn't mean he's better.

Mike Leach never played college football, yet he could run an NFL team if he had to.

Gus may have been coaching high school 4 years ago and might have been a total accident to begin with...had Broyles, Nutt, and boosters not been so fricking gung ho greedy about needing a player like Mitch Mustain on their team, Gus would have never even been offered to begin with. It's amusing that Gus is now at Auburn because Casey Dick was a more effective qb than a 5 star second coming who can't buy a start at a Pac 10 school that has more Qb troubles than ever.

Gus should get a ton of credit. You think 2006 Arkansas was all about Houston Nutt and his philosophies? Nutt would have driven that team into the Indy Bowl ground. Then, Nutt and Broyles and David Lee make Gus head to an irrelevant powerhouse in Tulsa, thinking this was the end of the rope for a guy who was only lured to college to bring his stud high school players with him. No one figured that Tommy Tubberville would be bought out at Auburn by one booster and that Gene Chizdick would even sniff a job interview. If he did and if he got hired, why would Gene hire a guy like GM to a big time SEC program when he was coaching 16 year olds just 3 year prior?

I don't know who we have to thank for Auburn becoming a ressurgent program again (and remaining on par for the most part with Bama) and coming out of nowhere. I don't know who is to thank for giving us another reason to think that winning the west is slim. Frank Broyles? Mitch Mustain? The greedy Auburn alum who threw down the money to buy out TT? Pete Carroll? Steve Kragthorpe? Whoever it is, it doesn't matter. GM is making Auburn into an offensive machine. The whole "they haven't played anyone" excuse is played. We haven't real;y, either and we're not putting up 500 yards plus of total offense per game.

So, if Crowton wants to be seen as the true wizard, then why is he not putting up 500 yards of offense with a much more talented team? We are far superior to Auburn in talent and they Plainsmen will even tell us that. I love LSU and will always support this team as I always have, but I call into question a guy like Crowton. I always laughed at the Oregon fans who said, "Thanks LSU! You did us a favor!" but now I really wonder. Along with the vanilla argument, we can sy we have a qb qho's just not ready to open it up...an O line that causes us to get rid of the ball quicker. Hell, I really don't know. Gary has NFL and major college experience at LA Tech, BYU, Oregon, LSI, etc. and Gus has high school and Arkansas, Tulsa, and now 4 games with AU. Still, who is making the most noise right now with less?
This post was edited on 9/20/09 at 9:04 pm
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