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re: Would LSU fans have stood up against Schiano like Vol fans are?

Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:40 pm to
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:40 pm to
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I don’t know ...depends on the spelling of the last name .

Schiano - pitch forks and torches

Chianeaux- one of us and dream


Posted by tconle2
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:46 pm to
We tried. At least everyone I know.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:53 pm to
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Hearsay in this context is when someone says they were told something by a 2nd party that they didn’t actually witness.

That's just absolutely not true.

Hearsay in any context involving criminal law (or civil law for that matter) is a person's out of court statement made for the truth of what they're asserting [FRE 801(c)].

Here, Schiano's out of court statement would be something like, "I never saw that."

In fact, in this context, "McQueary testified he was told by someone else (Bradley)," would not even be hearsay if it were offered to rebut Schiano's inconsistent statement at trial (see above denial).

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There are some strict exceptions but generally hearsay is not admissible


No offense, bro. But please don't wade into hearsay exceptions if you aren't prepared to have the definition of hearsay down first.

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You certainly could not convict Schiano of anything based on McQueary saying Bradley told McQueary what Schiano told Bradley. And from what I’ve read that’s the extent of the case against Schiano. Pretty flimsy to accuse someone of covering up something.


Not saying a jury would or should convict him of conspiracy, or whatever they would charge him with. But simply because it seems like "hearsay" doesn't mean it is not relevant evidence, especially in child sex abuse cases.






This is all academic anyway. As mentioned before, short of serial murder, an accusation of covering up child sexual exploitation is about as heinous as it gets.

That kind of stink doesn't wash off.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:13 pm to
That's what he does, TN bhoy is a douche bag.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34647 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:23 pm to
Lots of posters wanted to hire Louisville's slimy AD.
Posted by roger79
Welcome Home, Scott
Member since Dec 2012
3226 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:27 pm to
No, LSU fans would not have protested because we didn’t protest Orgeron.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:34 pm to
No.

Tennessee fans are just mad the best they could come up with is a washed up Schiano.

They don't want to accept that they are a mediocre program that will never repeat their history.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:40 pm to
LSU fans would think that rival schools are planting bad info and would try to lock him in to a lifetime contract.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7138 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:02 pm to
Schiano seems like the kind of guy looking for an excuse to beat the shite out of someone. I can't see him just turning a blind to something like that. Mcqueary, on the other hand, I 100% sure would run to Paterno if he saw something.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:07 pm to
In fairness the rationale against Miles firing then actually came true. The concern was we couldnt upgrade... And now we have a coach who will never deliver what Miles did.
Posted by Delhi Tiger
Member since Nov 2017
20 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:20 pm to
Aw come on! Give O a break! He just coached this team thru 9 wins and possibly 10. What does a coach have to do to earn respect of fans???
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:29 pm to
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n fact, in this context, "McQueary testified he was told by someone else (Bradley)," would not even be hearsay if it were offered to rebut Schiano's inconsistent statement at trial (see above denial).


My understanding is the order was the opposite. McQueary testified he was told a by Bradley that Schiano told Bradley he saw Sandusky raping a kid which Schiano denies. I’m was not aware Schanio even testified. If your order is correct that is different.

However I don’t see how you can prove he’s lying and unless there is some report that was filed or Bradley himself testifies what McQueary said.

ETA: I now read where both Schiano and Bradley deny what McQueary said.

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Not saying a jury would or should convict him of conspiracy, or whatever they would charge him with. But simply because it seems like "hearsay" doesn't mean it is not relevant evidence,


Evidence of what? That he saw a crime and didn’t report it at worst? Seems flimsy to accuse someone of covering up child molestation or being a pedo which the mob is doing. I’d also be curious is this moral outrage would be the same if his record was better.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 9:37 pm
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6198 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:32 pm to
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What does a coach have to do to earn respect of fans???


Not lose to Troy.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 9:15 pm to
I respect the turn around but we lost to Troy. Season was ruined at that point.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
19475 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:00 pm to
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Chianeaux- one of us and dream jobs!!!!


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