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re: Would Lane Kiffin make that much of a difference

Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:01 am to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:01 am to
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he did so good nobody in the country would hire him until les called


Don't start out the day lying and making up ridiculous stuff. Start the day on a good note.

Eaux could have stayed at USC if he had chosen to. Mullen tried to hire him a Miss St. A 3 or 4 time top recruiter in the nation does not go unemployed for long in college football.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:03 am to
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So his past failures matter and should disqualify him from being the coach at LSU? But Orgeron’s past failures are irrelevant? Makes sense.


Depends on the amount of time. What everyone is bashing Eaux for happened over a decade ago. Kiffin drove USC into the ground 4 or 5 years ago.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:03 am to
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i'd take him over the worst coach in Ole Miss history.


O wasn't prepar...oh wait.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:03 am to
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Eaux could have stayed at USC if he had chosen to. Mullen tried to hire him a Miss St. A 3 or 4 time top recruiter in the nation does not go unemployed for long in college football.
bullshite. That’s why he was stirring a gumbo pot on gamedays right? Syracuse told him no for fricks sake. Plus that top recruiting really worked great this year
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:04 am to
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Eaux for happened over a decade ago. Kiffin drove USC into the ground 4 or 5 years ago.
kiffin was Lombardi compared to Os ole miss tenure.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:05 am to
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but he fricking sucks as a head coach.


Well yeah, if a first year HC going 6-2 while playing in the SEC West while playing over 30 freshmen sucks in your opinion.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:05 am to
Wrong! We are bashing him for admitting to what he did wrong at Ole Miss that made him one of the worst head coaches in SEC History.

Then did much of the same last season. Meddled in the offense. Didnt let his coaches coach and became too much of a hot head.

Maybe you forget that speech Orgeron gave. We didnt.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30065 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:05 am to
Just because Coach O’s hiring process was bad does not mean lane kiffin would be a good hire as a head coach. He has never shown the aptitude for it on a big stage. The opposite in fact.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22681 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:06 am to
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you just described orgeron


First of all no, I described kiffin

Secondly, I am not defending Orgeron, I disputing that kiffin would be any better than him.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33887 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:07 am to
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The guy has been a failure at the HC level, and was shown the door ahead of a national championship game by the proven best HC.


Only failure was with the Raiders, if we're being objective here.

7-6 at Tennssee, not great but it was a turn in the right direction for them.

28-15 at USC under sanctions.

11-3 at FAU.

Where's the failure?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:07 am to
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They were dealing with sanctions. Did you forget that?


Doesn't matter at that point. Kiffin had a good season the year before. That is why USC was ranked as the #1 team in the country before Kiffin drug them into the abyss.

quote:

Ree is the only guy that can actually make me defend Lane Kiffin.


You are weird.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33887 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:08 am to
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Doesn't matter at that point. Kiffin had a good season the year before. That is why USC was ranked as the #1 team in the country before Kiffin drug them into the abyss.


It doesn't matter?

A reduction in scholarships doesn't matter?

But then you'll turn around and defend O because of a lack of line depth last year.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 10:12 am
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:08 am to
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You just don't get how an interim injects life into a team do you ? Hal Hunter took an unranked LSU team to Arkansas and beat the shite out them.


Want to name a couple of all the other interims that injected life and got their teams ranked and into a bowl game. It must happen all the time so it should be very easy to name a few.

Thanks in advance !!!
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:09 am to
LINK seems mullen wasn’t begging O to coach state.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:12 am to
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bullshite. That’s why he was stirring a gumbo pot on gamedays right?


Okay, sorry for insinuating that you were lying. You are just spouting shite without having a clue. There's a difference.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22681 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:13 am to
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Where's the failure?


The question is would he make a difference here. You just described records that would be unacceptable at this program.

And you are completely ignoring his exits from all of those programs. He failed at USC as a HC. He was fired in embarrassing fashion.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:13 am to
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kiffin was Lombardi compared to Os ole miss tenure.


For one year, yes. Was Lombardi fired on an airport tarmac also?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:15 am to
Playing the easiest schedule in a decade with a decade of top 10 recruiting classes. Costing the school millions in bone head coaching decisions. Having no OC search when he himself offers nothing to an offense. Then hires the TE coach. Worst recruiting class in many years. Fails to address CB position. Loss to ND was on his shoulders.

Oh and worst loss to our longest rival in HISTORY

Lost to fricking Troy State in a game where it wasnt a fluke win Troy actually kicked our butts.

Went 6-2 in SEC in years where other teams were so bad that 4 schools fired their coach. Only wins over a team that didnt fire their coach? AU and Ole Miss who is pathetic.

So he beat AU at home and that's pretty much it.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:16 am to
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For one year, yes. Was Lombardi fired on an airport tarmac also?

did kiffin win more than three conference games in his tenure
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 10:17 am
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7148 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:17 am to
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The guy has been a failure at the HC level


Kiffin's record as HC: 46-24.
Orgeron's record as HC: 19-29 (full time), 31-33 (including interim stints).

quote:

and was shown the door ahead of a national championship game by the proven best HC.



Didn't that team subsequently lose said national championship game?
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