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re: Woke LSU sucks.

Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:23 am to
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1088 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:23 am to
When will you start your counseling?
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33057 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:25 am to
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You just said you want them to shut up. Read your post


It pretty clearly read to me that he was saying the school as a whole and the administration shouldn’t voice strong partisan opinions on politics. I agree on that score. No public university as a whole should align itself with a particular political agenda. That is not their function.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7631 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:27 am to
My boss graduated from LSU, he is well seasoned , I to am a graduate of the Ole War Skule. Boss says he has seen so many changes at LSU that it has made him nauseous. Some changes were good, like the CEBA building, and others he thought were huge mistakes, like Lockett Hall. Listening to him talk about all the changes makes me believe that the 1930s were the best of times for LSU. He goes to faculty senate meetings, he says they are full of shite. The future of our great university is in a precarious place, should we abandon her ,or fight for her?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288563 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:27 am to
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It pretty clearly read to me that he was saying the school as a whole and the administration shouldn’t voice strong partisan opinions on politics. I agree on that score.



race equality isn't political
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168968 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:28 am to
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Can't beat their meat in anything. It's a tragedy. Troy Middleton's family is suing to get his stuff back from the university, which is shitholing it after pulling his name off the library. They refuse to display it and they won't give it back. And the the woke piece of shite they hired to run the place won't even agree to keep the Tiger mascot because it has to do with the Civil War. The legislature told the school to go F itself when they asked for $4 million in new facilities, because what's the point of spending money on more woke bullshite?


This doesn’t have much to do with the baseball team being garbage


People wonder why OP gets so much shite outside of the hayride bubble. What a melt
Posted by FightinTigers1
Covington,La.
Member since Jun 2009
548 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:29 am to
I think you should ask the citizens of NO, BR ,Shrevepit, Funroe ,Alexandria and Lk Charles why they keep voting for the SAME Democratic leaders and not only getting the same results(high crime,shitty schools, poor
streets) but worst results with each newly elected crook.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
4056 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:32 am to
Define that please....you are out of your element man. Looking pretty bad in here.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33057 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:33 am to
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race equality isn't political


Sure it isn’t. But blindly supporting an avowed Communist organization with broader goals of redistribution, forced reparations and, oh, just the basic end of the US as a democratic republic because of that IS political. You can easily take a stand on one without bowing down to the other.
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 10:35 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297288 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:34 am to
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race equality isn't political


CRT is about equity, which rejects equality

The new university president does not believe in equality.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288563 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:35 am to
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But blindly supporting an avowed Communist organization with broader goals of redistribution



never happened. Stop making things up.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297288 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:35 am to
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Bc they’re the minority


Less than 10% of Americans are progressive.

Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
4685 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:35 am to
Get this crap to the poli board
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297288 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:36 am to
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But blindly supporting an avowed Communist organization with broader goals of redistribution
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never happened.


You need to educate yourself on your own ideology.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78300 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:40 am to
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Everything about LSU right now is substandard. We're spending almost $500 million a year for a flagship university that isn't even in the top 150 of American colleges and the place is in free fall. At what point does the fan base wake up and demand answers?


Who was Governor when that free fall started?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288563 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:41 am to
Yes, says the guy that is part of a cult
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33057 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:43 am to
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never happened. Stop making things up.


Ok. Let the self-appointed expert deliver us some ironclad proof that BLM isn’t a Marxist organization down to its roots. That this wasn’t clearly stated at their founding. That it isn’t still a part of the organization today, even after they have dialed the rhetoric back in the face of mainstream criticism. I won’t have to wait, because you can’t.

Support for a single organization does not determine what you believe when it comes to equality between people of different races and ethnic backgrounds.
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22487 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:44 am to
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You do realize that despite all the tough doom and gloom rhetoric from professors and administrators, under Jindal, LSU’s budget literally never was reduced from one year to the next. Jindal reduced the rate of annual increase, but LSU’s budget was higher every year than the year before it.


That's because LSU's tuition basically doubled in Jindal's 8 years. LSU wasn't getting the money from the state, so they got it from the students and TOPS (TOPS was nearly bankrupted and also changed eligibility requirements because practically anyone with a diploma could get TOPS--which is fine by me).

In the last 5 years of JBE, Tuition has gone up about $1200/year. Books have gone down. Room and board have gone up nominally.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288563 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:46 am to
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Let the self-appointed expert deliver us some ironclad proof that BLM isn’t a Marxist organization down to its roots.



LSU has never aligned itself with the BLM organization.


Don't care what your thoughts are on that organization to be honest.

You said LSU has supported and aligned themselves with the BLM organization and thats not true. They put "black lives matter" on the video board, yea.

Because 85% of the roster in the biggest money making sport are black and the coach was losing the team because he said some dumb shite. And it would be idiotic not to.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78300 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:49 am to
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Support for a single organization does not determine what you believe when it comes to equality between people of different races and ethnic backgrounds.




And Saying Black Lives Matter doesn’t mean you support BLM Inc. it’s and everything it’s founders believe.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:50 am to
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You do realize that despite all the tough doom and gloom rhetoric from professors and administrators, under Jindal, LSU’s budget literally never was reduced from one year to the next. Jindal reduced the rate of annual increase, but LSU’s budget was higher every year than the year before it.

Some of the other universities in the state, like UNO, faced some minor budgetary issues due to tying their baseline budgets to the Katrina year, but overall, in no year under Jindal was higher education funding in general or funding for LSU in particular lower than any year previously.


This is correct, but something else needs to be added for full understanding.

Namely, source of funds.

What Jindal did was to change the funding model of Louisiana' universities. He cut the general funds appropriation to the schools, and then refilled the funding through tuition subsidized by TOPS.

Meaning it was the market funding an LSU, not the state legislature.

Economically, this is a far better model, in that it imposes some accountability on those institutions. Put forth a shitty product and you'll have trouble finding students who'll attend your school. Do a lousy job with cost controls and you won't be able to cover for it by running to the Legislature hat in hand; the customers will either pay the freight, or they won't.

It was actually a pretty good idea, but it failed - for two reasons.

First, for whatever reason Jindal and his team completely failed to message any of it properly to the people of Louisiana. As a result, nobody understood what he was doing and you had two nonsensical narratives the state's media jumped on and pushed take over - first, that Jindal was "gutting" higher education, and second, that the TOPS program had gotten "out of control."

Apparently, they polled their strategy with the public and didn't like the results so they just decided to be quiet about it. But being quiet about stuff like this only opens the door for your political enemies to run wild with whatever narratives they like.

The second problem was that Jindal and his team sat back and let the Board of Supervisors make the hire for a school president without exercising some influence to make sure what they were buying wasn't garbage. And what the Board did was hire a search firm and task it with finding the hottest up-and-coming university administrator they could find.

Which was dead wrong, because who gets jobs as university administrators nowadays are woke assholes like F. King Alexander. What you needed was somebody who came from outside university administration who could impose some sense of sanity on that ivory tower.

As an illustration of just how bad a hire Alexander was, I had a conversation a year or so after he came on the job. At the time he was recruiting LSU students to demonstrate at the Capitol to "save LSU" from budget cuts, when as you said LSU's total funding never actually went down. I ran into the then-president of the Board of Supervisors, and he was furious about what Alexander was doing.

I asked him why he was surprised, seeing as though Alexander had WRITTEN A WHITE PAPER on how states needed to boost funding - he called it "support" - of universities through the general fund because it was the only equitable way to fund public higher ed.

My question was why you'd hire somebody who was publishing papers decrying the funding method the governor who had appointed you was pursuing.

The look I got in response was pretty telling. This guy was the president of the LSU Board and he didn't have the faintest idea that Alexander had written that white paper even a year after they'd hired him.

There is no reason to defend Jindal's handling of LSU, but the indictment is totally different than what all of these people think.
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