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re: Will the SEC remain at 14 teams? (one last offseason topic)

Posted on 8/17/19 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/17/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Yep, because having Missouri in the East is a way better idea.
This, unironically.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 2:23 pm to
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Well, this proposal would solve your only important casualty while simultaneously resolving a number of other scheduling issues. You think UGA likes having LSU for a home game once a decade?
This isn’t a big issue.
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You don’t think Bama would love the idea of getting a rematch against Auburn in the SEC Championship?
Also not important at all.
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There’s a reason realignment comes up in the off-season so often. The system has serious flaws and the schools would like to come up with a solution.
Fun to talk about, but most SEC schools would rather keep it the way it is than entertain any ideas you and others have proposed.
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2739 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 12:20 pm to
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xiv

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Because that's the way the majority of the conference wants it


I understand that there are teams that do not want the change the permanent rival system. Rotating the non conference opponents is the better way to balance the schedule for every SEC team.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:09 pm to
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most SEC schools would rather keep it the way it is than entertain any ideas you and others have proposed.

Unfortunate, but true.

I wish we could get the conference to accept one of these compromises:
1. Increase to 9 conference games, with two rotating cross-divisional matchups, or
2. Base division standings on division record rather than conference record. Use conference record as first tiebreaker.

The SEC loves to say that a 1-loss SEC team plays a much tougher schedule than a 1-loss ACC team, without acknowledging the huge discrepancies in strength of schedule within our own conference.

Alabama played Missouri and Tennessee last year while LSU played Florida and Georgia. Missouri and Tennessee both finished unranked, while Florida and Georgia finished tied for #7 in the AP.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:40 pm to
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2. Base division standings on division record rather than conference record. Use conference record as first tiebreaker.

The SEC loves to say that a 1-loss SEC team plays a much tougher schedule than a 1-loss ACC team, without acknowledging the huge discrepancies in strength of schedule within our own conference.

Alabama played Missouri and Tennessee last year while LSU played Florida and Georgia. Missouri and Tennessee both finished unranked, while Florida and Georgia finished tied for #7 in the AP.
Bad idea, not an issue. Besides, none of this has ever cost a team an SEC title.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:47 pm to
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Rotating the non conference opponents is the better way to balance the schedule for every SEC team.
If the perceived imbalance ever cost a team an SEC title, this would be a good point.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:04 pm to
College football does not care about having “fair” schedules—college football only cares about certain teams winning.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:22 pm to
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Division B 
Auburn 
Kentucky 
South Carolina 
Vanderbilt 

Division C 
Alabama 
LSU 
Mississippi State 
Texas A&M 


This the problem with 4 divisions. Auburn gets a free pass yearly and Bama, LSU and A&M get to beat each other to death. Basically what happens now on a bigger scale with the west and UGA

You'd have to take the big 4 put in their rivial in and then fill the rest.
Bama-Auburn-Tenn-Van
UGA-FLA-SC-weaker new team
LSU-Aggies-Ole Piss-State
Arky-Mizzou-KeNt-stonger new team
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:24 pm to
You're going to have to dumb that down for the wizards in Birmingham.
Posted by SmallyBiggs
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
132 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:47 pm to
Can we kick a few out?

Do we really need Mizzou, Vandy, A&M, and South Carolina?

Maybe kick 2 out and add Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Then shift Bama and Auburn to the East.
Posted by SeanLSU
Member since May 2019
1759 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:36 pm to
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Can we kick a few out?

Do we really need Mizzou, Vandy, A&M, and South Carolina?

Maybe kick 2 out and add Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Then shift Bama and Auburn to the East.


Well, two of the four you want to kick out are at the very top of our academic rankings and pull the whole conference up. There is no way the SEC dumps Vandy or A&M. Add onto that the financial impact of A&M, and they are pretty secure in the conference. Vandy gives the conference a private institution and is a dominant baseball team for the best baseball conference in the country. Recently they have been decent in basketball and football, though not great. They still bring enough to the table to earn their spot. SCAR was a final four team in basketball a year ago, and they have had recent success in football, as well. Mizzou went to back-to-back SEC football title games their first couple years in the league. Their footing is the weakest of the four, but I still don't see a reason to just flat out boot them from the SEC.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45763 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:14 pm to
Remember when TCU was outside of a major conference? The school was a founding member of the Southwest Conference, but when that broke up they joined the Western Athletic Conference, then Conference USA, and then the Mountain West Conference before joining the Big 12. So, why not consider adding SMU?

DFW area, great school, could be a real contender with the SEC being the shot in the arm that program needs. We do not need to add OU and OSU, that's for sure. This would frick UT badly, too.

Oh, and lots of money on the line with TV audience expansion in a top 5 market.

This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 11:16 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34746 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:43 am to
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Expanding from 12 to 14 teams created a terrible cross-division environment imo.
It doesn't have to be the solution is simple but sadly the SEC has its head so far up Alabama's arse it will never be simple
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 1:43 am
Posted by cittizinsrat
Member since Aug 2017
668 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:15 pm to
Bumping my own old thread… I like my 3 year turnaround to play every team in the conference more than the sec networks 4 year proposal.

Pod is a better word.
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