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re: Will Jordan Jefferson start every game for LSU this season?
Posted on 6/4/11 at 4:00 pm to slackster
Posted on 6/4/11 at 4:00 pm to slackster
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Also, they have said that he finally understands that when he goes to run, he does not have to abandon the idea of throwing it. He is keeping his head downfield and looking for the open man as the play breaks down. IMO, this was something that he has done a horrific job of in the past and I was more than excited to hear that he has began to figure it out.
JJ's biggest problem is that he holds onto the ball too long. He is indecisive with what to do with the ball. It seems that all too often receivers are open and yet the ball stays in JJ's hands. Not to mention lacking the ability to accurately throw the ball to a spot with the WR coming out of their break. I don't care what he does in practice, until he can do it in game with consistancy, he's still JJ.
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Posted on 6/4/11 at 5:37 pm to ATLTiger
Supposedly he understands his role this year very well. He knows that he should have a very good running game and he just needs to help move the chains the limited amount of times he will be called on to do so. Krags believes that he will be more successful if he knows exactly what is expected of him. You will not see anything dramatic in the schemes, but you should see players executing those schemes exceptionally well. For 2011, simpler will almost certainly be better. Basically, LSU will line up and everyone will know what is coming, but they will not be able to stop it - ala 1990s Nebraska.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 5:44 pm to slackster
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You are a prime example of a completely spoiled fan.
Spoiled huh big Ed? So you consider a spoiled fan someone who expects the qb of their team to be better than the 110th out 116qb's in the country? To be better than not being in the top 10 of SEC qb ratings? To not sound like an immature spoiled brat whining that last year he wasnt put in a position to succeed and that he has been here for three years and that is why he is the starter. To not say he thinks he played a fine game when he amasses 4 yards of total offense versus McNeese St? To have a qb respected by his teammates not one whose starting wide receiver says the whole team knows Jordan's problem is mental???
Yea if expecting better than that is spoiled then I am spoiled.
As to what the other poster said about seeing it on the field I agree completely. Heard the same verse and song last year how well JJ was looking in practice and in Spring Practice this year how much better he was then he goes out and goes 4-14 with a wounded duck INT. I dont know how Mett could do worse do you really think he could be 111th out of 116qb's??????????
This post was edited on 6/4/11 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 6/4/11 at 5:58 pm to Rudy40
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So you consider a spoiled fan someone who expects the qb of their team to be better than the 110th out 116qb's in the country?
Then I am spoiled too. Our QB play has sucked, plain and simple.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 6:13 pm to slackster
quote:This is pipe dreaming. 2011 will once again be JJ looking down his primary receiver and tipping off the opposition. To think otherwise is pure folly. Just hope for the best.
Supposedly he understands his role this year very well.
We have seen the best of Jordan Jefferson. Expect more of the same.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 6:31 pm to tigerpawl
You are spoiled, yes. I've never said JJ's play last year was anything to be proud of. I think the combination of true competition at the spot, his senior year, krags, and the Oregon game forcing an extra intense off season workout, will prove to be the forge that turns JJ into a champion, again.
There's nothing wrong with expecting him to fail. The problem I have is some of you seem to WANT him to fail.
There's nothing wrong with expecting him to fail. The problem I have is some of you seem to WANT him to fail.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 6:40 pm to BigEdLSU
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There's nothing wrong with expecting him to fail. The problem I have is some of you seem to WANT him to fail.
First of all as I have posted numerous times I believe JJ will have a decent game against Oregon. Since some of you called his 10-19 performance against A&M a great performance if you use the JJ curve he may have a great game. One thing he has shown the ability to do is digest and learn a game plan if given two weeks or more to learn it. Since he will have much longer than that I think he will be OK in that game. The problem is most of LSU's games are 1 week apart and he has shown no ability to be able to grasp a game plan in that time frame. I know many blame Crowton's gameplanning but strangely that issue didnt exist when Flynn was the qb.
I expect JJ to revert to his subpar standard following the Oregon game and I hate to see a potential NC season jeapordized by a mentally weak qb who has a history of poor performances. Again despite the hubub in the Spring he came out for the spring game looking exactly like JJ 2010. Perhaps it is as many have said he looks great in practice but it doesnt carry over to the games very often. 2010 he had 9 poor to horrible performances out of 13 starts. My point is LSU is wasting the chance to see just how good Mett is and can be every snap Jefferson takes.
This post was edited on 6/4/11 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 6/4/11 at 6:52 pm to Rudy40
Yeah, maybe you get a higher potential for how good the team could be with Mett at the helm.... But who knows how long he will take to really develop a rhythm with our offense? Could it happen instantly, like a cam newton? It's possible, but unlikely.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 6:56 pm to BigEdLSU
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Yeah, maybe you get a higher potential for how good the team could be with Mett at the helm.... But who knows how long he will take to really develop a rhythm with our offense? Could it happen instantly, like a cam newton? It's possible, but unlikely.
Again JJ was the 110th out of 116 rated qb in the country, he was 4-14 in the spring game so I know you arent trying to say that JJ has a rhythm with our offense other than when he is on the field there are a hell of a lot of 3 and outs.
Again do you really think he could be worse than JJ? I mean I will be more than happy to bet you he will not be the 111th or lower rated qb in the country.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 7:16 pm to Rudy40
Like you said, it's hard to do worse than JJ's cumulative preformance last season. So why is it so hard to believe that JJ could actually do better too?
And seriously guy, rewatch the spring game. That 5 mile windup was shortened considerably. The mechanics are coming around. Krag will make a positive impact on all qb's.
And seriously guy, rewatch the spring game. That 5 mile windup was shortened considerably. The mechanics are coming around. Krag will make a positive impact on all qb's.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 7:23 pm to BigEdLSU
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And seriously guy, rewatch the spring game. That 5 mile windup was shortened considerably. The mechanics are coming around. Krag will make a positive impact on all qb's.
I have heard for the last 2 years all I want to hear about JJ's improved practice performance, footwork and delivery. As of the spring game the results have been the same. I dont think he can do it on the field on a consistent basis. As Shep said the whole team knows JJ's problem is mental. That says volumes to me!
Posted on 6/4/11 at 7:27 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Administration....please end this post now....
JJ is and will be our qb....get over it people......
JJ is and will be our qb....get over it people......
Posted on 6/4/11 at 7:31 pm to boxcar willie
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uncommoncents as the newest member of the basher brigade?
Uhhh
Posted on 6/4/11 at 7:32 pm to Rudy40
I guess this is what it boils down to IMO. We all know JJ is gonna start. Wouldn't any LSU fan want that player to play well? Don't you want him to win so he keeps his job? So if you want an undefeated season, don't you want JJ to play well? If you want it, how can you not hope for it?
Posted on 6/4/11 at 7:35 pm to TheDoc
With his style of running, I do not think that he can make it through this season without taking a couple of hard knocks. From an injury standpoint I don't think he starts every game.
Also, consider that if Lee would have taken the reigns and played lights out when given his opportunity JJ might not have started every game last year. If Mett gets the same chance he might do better than Lee given the same opportunity forcing a change
Also, consider that if Lee would have taken the reigns and played lights out when given his opportunity JJ might not have started every game last year. If Mett gets the same chance he might do better than Lee given the same opportunity forcing a change
Posted on 6/4/11 at 8:38 pm to pianoman224
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He was clearly the worst starter in the SEC last year, and has shown no signs of having the ability to go from worst to first as you seem to think he will do. Krags has a great reputation, but he is not a miracle worker.
We don't need fantastic QB play form JJ to win. We just need consistant decent performances from him. Everything else will take care of itself. I believe Krag's work with Jefferson and the plays he will give JJ to run will show this improvement.
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:21 pm to Chrome
One thing many forget in wondering about this QB situation is the very strong possibility of injuries to the QB. It seems like most seasons, the starter misses at least one game & often more because of injury--a real possibility at that position. Hopefully, Miles, Krag and the rest of the staff will have Mett ready to go--i.e., get him some playing time whatever it takes--since they should realistically know Lee is not the answer.
This post was edited on 6/4/11 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 6/4/11 at 11:59 pm to rjokerlsu
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I guess this is what it boils down to IMO. We all know JJ is gonna start. Wouldn't any LSU fan want that player to play well
I would love an undefeated season. However I have no confidence that JJ has the mental makeup or physical ability to perform well enough to lead LSU to an undefeated season. To have an undefeated season and win a national championship LSU would have to go 14-0. Last year he played poorly to downright horrible in 9 of 13 games. If he were to make a major improvement and say play well in 8 of 14 games which is a huge improvement that still leaves 6 poor to horrible games. Last year Peterson on special teams, the punter and kicker and the defense basically singlehandedly won 3 or 4 games. Peterson is gone and while I think we will have good special teams it will be a dropoff. The same with the punting and kicking game. I think they will be good but a dropoff. I see no reason JJ will improve enough to overcome that.
Past performance is the best indication of future performance and JJ's past performance is horrible. To think in his senior year he will make a major transformation is wishing on a star. He hasnt shown it in the spring game and based on his whining he hasnt shown he has matured mentally. Would you think an NFL team would look at JJ and say we are going to draft him because to play qb because we can transform him into a qb?????? Not a chance he doesnt have the mental makeup or physical ability to be a decent qb.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 12:08 am to slackster
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Supposedly he understands his role this year very well.
Will believe it when I see it. There was a lot of hype about an improved JJ in August of last year. JJ has a lot to prove this year and it's up to his performance, not more preseason hype, to prove.
Posted on 6/5/11 at 1:00 am to Rudy40
Hey, Rudy, we're pretty much on the same page as far as the view about Jefferson's ability. I don't think he's the caliber of QB that can lead LSU to an undefeated season/BCS title, but it seems like Miles is determined to start him & play him as much as possible, regardless of how effective he is. His past performances show an inconsistent QB who is at best, a mediocre passer--I don't think Krag can pull a rabbit out of his hat & immediately transform JJ into an NFL prospect. Just want to see the QB competition fair when fall practice starts--I have doubts. I also get the impression that the spring game meant little to Miles in evaluating the QB's.
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