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re: Will another 4 or 5 loss season get Jimbo crossed-off Woodward' s future HC wish-list?
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:18 pm to Madking
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:18 pm to Madking
“The O-Haters fawn over Jimbo 24/7 on this site.”
I'll take that as an endorsement from you for Orgeron over Jimbo. Glad we got that settled.
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Another lie, the reason Jimbo has been mentioned lately is because of his connection to Woodward and because we have a new AD. Maybe if you exited your bubble and conspiracy theory echo chamber for a second you’d realize that.
I'll take that as an endorsement from you for Orgeron over Jimbo. Glad we got that settled.
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Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:18 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Nor should he be (except at CEO).
Yeah everyone knows that Saban, Belichik,Payton, Meyer, parcels,Lambeau, spurrier and every other great coach wasnt the most important person on their staff.
You dont know football at an elementary level.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:20 pm to bencoleman
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promise that he knows more than you.
In the last 20 years Damone has been the OC for as many productive offenses as Enmsinger.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:21 pm to CptBengal
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RickyDaddy says hold my beer....
Yes anyone with a brain would choose Jimbo over ed orgeron if both were unemployed.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:27 pm to bencoleman
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His last class was 5 this class
And what was 2017?
He is averaging out at the 5th best class in the sec since taking over.
Facts and shite.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:29 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
I’ve seen threads mentioning the connection between he and our new AD, but have seen nobody “fawning” over Fisher.
I think most people are optimistic about what Orgeron is doing and certainly hopeful about the direction of things. This year will be enormous for him and his future though. There’s no way around it. We have a playoff caliber team. The results need to reflect the talent and experience
I think most people are optimistic about what Orgeron is doing and certainly hopeful about the direction of things. This year will be enormous for him and his future though. There’s no way around it. We have a playoff caliber team. The results need to reflect the talent and experience
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Yeah I'll take the coach who has had a Heisman winning quarterback and has actually won a championship over the coach whose best record was an average season for Les Miles.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:All these guys had to learn to stay in their lane of expertise, and delegate the rest.
Yeah everyone knows that Saban, Belichik,Payton, Meyer
They all have different skill sets, and none of them claim to be the sharpest knife in every area of the game. Orgeron's areas of expertise are in the DL, recruiting, and inspiring his players.
Saban's is in getting around NCAA's rules and regs and getting good deals on Dodge Chargers.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:33 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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The O-Haters
People don't hate O. They hated Alleva for hiring O. Alleva is gone and I think most of us are willing to let the new guy decide O's fate.
But ten wins and third in the west with a crappy offense is no better than what the last guys gave us.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:34 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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No credibility with who? The O-Haters? Of course not.
Here in lies your ignorance.
Stating facts about O's resume and his time at LSU in no way means you hate O.
Losing 4 and 3 games every year wasnt good enough for lsu coaches that had already been to the mountain top of cfb, so it damn sure isnt good enough for ed orgeron( whom took shots at lsu his entire career).
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:35 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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All these guys had to learn to stay in their lane of expertise, and delegate the rest.
In no way does that mean they arent the most important person on their staff. Good God. Just admit you were wrong. The head coach should be the most important person on their staff.
You're acting as if I said head coaches should do everything and they dont need staff.
You're showing your football ignorance of you think the coaches I mentioned arent the most important people on their staff.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:37 pm to bencoleman
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Why wouldn't you and others be thrilled about it?
I would be thrilled if we pulled in the number 1 class. I don’t think we will. Last year’s was ranked number 1 at one point too. What’s different this year?
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:37 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
“I'll take that as an endorsement from you for Orgeron over Jimbo. Glad we got that settled.”
For the 2019 season, 100% yes.
For the 2019 season, 100% yes.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:41 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Yeah I'll take the coach who has had a Heisman winning quarterback and has actually won a championship over the coach whose best record was an average season for Les Miles.
It's crazy talk. As if any AD would pick ed orgeron over jimbo Fisher. Hell even our past shitty ad alleva wanted Jimbo over O.
That doesnt mean I think O should be fired right now. I think we will have a pretty good 2019.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:41 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Interesting considering he has struggled so much in recruiting defensive lineman. One 4 star nose guard a year doesn't cut it.
Orgeron's areas of expertise are in the DL, recruiting
And his recruiting hasn't been any better than the other LSU HC's. If anything I'd just say he's been able to keep up with the standard set by those previous coaches.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:42 pm to Madking
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I'll take that as an endorsement from you for Orgeron over Jimbo. Glad we got that settled.”
For the 2019 season, 100% yes.
Where are these mythical,"fire ed orgeron now and hire jimbo" posters?
It's a straw man argument.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:43 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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They all have different skill sets, and none of them claim to be the sharpest knife in every area of the game. Orgeron's areas of expertise are in the DL, recruiting, and inspiring his players.
Well considering our dline was the Achilles heel of the defense last year.......
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:47 pm to Rickdaddy4188
This is what they do, they can’t argue the facts so they create these phony boogeymen to fight with. The “everyone hates Oregon” theory, the “we need to fire Oregeron before the 2019 season” theory are their two favorites and they themselves made both of them up. They do this all the time, it allows them to dodge the actual discussions and create phony discussions that allow them an arguable side.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:47 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:The term "most important person" is vague at best. Orgeron has become a CEO-type leader. Other HCs are more hands-on.
In no way does that mean they arent the most important person on their staff. Good God. Just admit you were wrong. The head coach should be the most important person on their staff.
You're acting as if I said head coaches should do everything and they dont need staff.
Jimbo is his own OC. IMO, that will sink his ship. There are now much better OCs than Jimbo, because there are much better RPO coaches than Fisher. - but I doubt he will ever give up the reins to any offense - he's a control freak on offense.
Fisher on RPO offenses in 2017:
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“We do probably 8 to 14 [RPO plays] a game. I think it’s dumb and it’s unfair to defenses. Guys more than a yard down field, that’s a penalty,” Fisher said on Tuesday. “But we do them. You have to.”
LINK
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 4/21/19 at 4:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:There are none. These "horrible posters" are saying that this is the year of O to show us he can do it. The roster and schedule set up beautifully. If he can't win at least 10 games in the regular season this year then changes need to be considered.
Where are these mythical,"fire ed orgeron now and hire jimbo" posters?
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 4:49 pm
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