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re: Wide Receiver Depth Chart

Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:02 pm to
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I feel Giles returns to his Texas Tech form. He'll surprise lots of people this fall.


Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Palmer and Lee are not redshirting


Lee looks like a safety to me. If he can put on 25 or 30 pounds a linebacker.


Palmer is smooth and will be hard to keep him off the field.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:00 pm to
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But it's hard to ignore Dillon. When they get him the ball the guy makes plays.


if Dillon had really good hands he would probably be our best receiver. Looks like he likes the ball to come into his body and doesn't reach out with his hands very well to make catches, and even then it is iffy. But he is very dangerous with the ball when he does catch it. But unless he has really improved his hands a great deal over the off season I just cant see him starting or even being a primary backup, We just have to many other guys who can catch the ball and while maybe not as dynamic with the ball as Dillon, are still pretty dynamic.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:03 pm to
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Lee looks like a safety to me. If he can put on 25 or 30 pounds a linebacker.


yes, this. We are so stacked already at WR, just seems a better path to PT would be at safety or LB. Plus he is already pretty stout and will just naturally fill out even more as his body matures.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:03 pm to
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You are missing the point. It’s not about spreading it around.
Read the OP. This is about '19's depth chart. And expect to see a 6, 7, or 8+ rotation. That is what many Spread/RPO offenses are doing successfully now.

They're fielding wave after wave of receivers with fresh legs at spent DB's and LB's.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 3:04 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:08 pm to
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Yeah I'd love for Giles to prove us wrong, but writing has to be on the wall for him being 3rd/4th string slot in the spring game, and of course the coach saying he made a mistake to give him #7 last year. I'd grad transfer and play somewhere else he could get on the field.


I get why we took him last year as we didn't have any experienced WR's returning so it seemed like a big need at the time, but turns out he wasn't quite as good as he appeared to be at Texas Tech and those young guys have way passed him up.
Can a player transfer in and then transfer out the next season? I like the dude and all for wanting to come to LSU but things have changed.,
Posted by GeauxJoeGeaux
Member since Apr 2019
194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:50 pm to
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Read the OP.


I wrote it.

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And expect to see a 6, 7, or 8+ rotation.


LINK

6 players with 20+ receptions last year.

again, I am not talking about simply spreading it around. LSU spread it around last year.

I am talking about having some sort of semblance of a cohesive offense, and not just haphazardly subbing WRs in and out for no apparent reason at all.
Posted by GeauxJoeGeaux
Member since Apr 2019
194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 3:53 pm to
Dillon does have good hands.

LINK


Dillon Jefferson and Chase more or less have the same % in terms of "catch rate" which is simply "how many balls did you catch divided by the number of targets".


whats so depressing about that is that the three of them were the highest and none of them are above 60%.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:07 pm to
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I am talking about having some sort of semblance of a cohesive offense, and not just haphazardly subbing WRs in and out for no apparent reason at all.



What gives you the impression that the subbing is haphazard? The strategy is to exhaust the DBs and LBs with fresh legs from the offense. And, to permit the hurry-up offense to operate at full speed without exhausting the WRs, TEs, and receiving RBs.

We heard the same objections to subbing WRs at OSU before last season season started. In 2018, OSU broke their all-time passing record by about 1500 yards.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:22 pm to
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Lee looks like a safety to me. If he can put on 25 or 30 pounds a linebacker.
Geez, I hope not. He looks like one of the best WR's I've seen in years.


Posted by GeauxJoeGeaux
Member since Apr 2019
194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:23 pm to
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What gives you the impression that the subbing is haphazard?


uhhh...the entire 2018 season??

sorry if you didnt watch. Its ok. I just know that I dont need to discuss this matter with you further because you clearly didnt watch any LSU football if you are still flummoxed as to what I am referring to.

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The strategy is to exhaust the DBs and LBs with fresh legs from the offense.


are you under some sort of impression that other teams do not have depth at LB and DB?


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We heard the same objections to subbing WRs at OSU before last season season started. In 2018, OSU broke their all-time passing record by about 1500 yards.


you don't think that had anything to do with your QB and the SOS??
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:32 pm to
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uhhh...the entire 2018 season??

You're aware that LSU will be running Brady's Spread/RPO?
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sorry if you didnt watch.

Please..

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are you under some sort of impression that other teams do not have depth at LB and DB?
Yes. Not depth that gets much PT
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you don't think that had anything to do with your QB and the SOS??
They've had about the same SOS in the Big-10 for decades.

And Burrow can run the Spread/RPO with the same high efficiency as Haskins. a little better in some areas - like getting the ball to the RB's - and being a legit running threat that the D has to scheme for.

This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted by GeauxJoeGeaux
Member since Apr 2019
194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 5:51 pm to
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You're aware that LSU will be running Brady's Spread/RPO?


dude. how can you be this dense?

this is exactly the point I was trying to make. the offense last year did not work. there was no semblance of reason for why receivers went in and out of the game. I think this year we will see a departure from that.

dear lord, I feel like I am interacting with a brick wall.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:29 pm to
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dude. how can you be this dense?

this is exactly the point I was trying to make. the offense last year did not work. there was no semblance of reason for why receivers went in and out of the game. I think this year we will see a departure from that.

dear lord, I feel like I am interacting with a brick wall.
So, we agree that that a large number of WR's in the 2019 offense is likely a very good thing. Great. Glad we got that settled.

BTW, your syntax reminds me of a certain O-Hater... what was your Rant name before you took on the "GeauxJoeGeaux" alter?

This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 6:30 pm
Posted by LSU Fireman
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Member since Oct 2008
467 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 12:26 am to
No disrespect to Palmer and Lee because I think they will play, but you might be right.
Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
22324 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:08 am to
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Air Orgeron about to be unleashed.





Year 1 of The Flying Shrimpboat Offense.
Posted by GeauxJoeGeaux
Member since Apr 2019
194 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:01 am to
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So, we agree that that a large number of WR's in the 2019 offense is likely a very good thing. Great. Glad we got that settled.


Yessir.

All I was saying, is that last year, LSU may have used a large number of receivers, but the subs/rotation didn’t make any sense.

Go back and watch a few games and just keep track of which WRs are on the field. Ask yourself, “is there a reason why (A) came out and (B) came in?”
Posted by GeauxJoeGeaux
Member since Apr 2019
194 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:02 am to
It’s actually a good thing if they redshirt. It means that the 11(!!!) guys ahead of them are getting it done.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54517 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:18 am to
This WR group is just sick with talent. We just have to hope that the play calling is better and Oline play is better this year. When we play bama and Auburn this year they will have great dline's all that WR talent doesn't mean shite if our qb can't get them the ball. I definitely think having a better running game this year will help. I am stoked about this season though. Our defense will be lights out and looks like this offense will be legit.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26648 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:20 am to
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Palmer and Lee are not redshirting.


Yes they are. They'll probably get to play in the non Texas OOC games, and maybe vs Ole Miss/Arkansas/Vandy.

There are four athletic and experienced seniors, one junior that had over twice as many receptions, yards, and TDs than any other guy, 2 rising sophomores who just my be the most talented of the entire group, and guys that rarely, if ever, played yet from last year. There is no reason to believe Palmer and Lee get any passes thrown to them let alone thinking they won't get redshirted.
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