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re: Why would Miles not start Lee?
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:08 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:08 am to Prominentwon
Posted by Prominentwon on 4/9 at 8:00 am to TheDoc
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I didn't think it would be possible either until I saw the pick in the spring game.
I have no clue. Lee is the spring king. Wr all know that.
I'm not
hopefully
lees always been good in practice
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I didn't think it would be possible either until I saw the pick in the spring game.
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So that's a barometer for the '10 season?
I have no clue. Lee is the spring king. Wr all know that.
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Don't just look at the int
I'm not
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what's that a sign of?
Oh, maturity and a better understanding of what it takes to play QB.
hopefully
lees always been good in practice
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Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:09 am to TheDoc
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I think if he can get better line play and receivers catching better, doubters will change their tune this season.
well, their in lies our argument, you believe it was the line and the recievers, I believe it was the QB. not trying to provoke anything just stating difference of opinoin.
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:10 am to Hot Carl
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Why would Miles not start Lee?
Why would he start Lee?
To see if the DBs can catch?
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:10 am to TheDoc
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Jefferson made some good throws in the spring game, as well as lee of course
He just didn't seem like he was comfortable back there as one would hope. Lee seemed MUCH more comfortable and seemed to know what to do so much more than the past.
I really think Jefferson is going to drop the ball this year and Lee is going to end up behind center by the end of the year.
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:11 am to tjohn deaux
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I believe it's ts reason, because Lee, although he has proven exceptional ability, has tended to put a lot of ressure on himself to make things happen and force things that worked in high school ball, but will never work in college ball. I am afraid he has lived by a method his whole football life that causes him to react in ways that don't work at this level. I think the coaches have tried with some success to change it, but when his instincts take over, which they often have to, he reverts back to the actions that college defensive players can turn around on him.
wow... That is actually a very good post
Jefferson reverts back to high school tactics as well sometimes.
I just don't think they are getting the developement that is needed from the coaching staff
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:11 am to Mike Linebacker
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A Jefferson led offense is almost incapable of scoring more than 30 points so the games will always come down to the 4th quarter, whether it's Florida or Vanderbilt. And that means that LSU is susceptible to being upset if the opposition gets a few breaks (see e.g., Miss State 2009)
Miss St. 2009 is the exact opposite of what you are describing, we are the ones that got the lucky breaks to get us the win
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:12 am to TigerFan55555
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well, their in lies our argument, you believe it was the line and the recievers, I believe it was the QB. not trying to provoke anything just stating difference of opinoin.
or how about it's a collection of all three?
Like all had an equal slice of the fail pie?
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:13 am to tjohn deaux
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I believe it's ts reason, because Lee, although he has proven exceptional ability, has tended to put a lot of ressure on himself to make things happen and force things that worked in high school ball, but will never work in college ball.
two things, maturity fixes much of that.
JL only played 2 yrs of hs ball..on he same token JJ is learing that LSU isnt Destrehan, IMO the HS thing you mentioned applies much more to JJ than JL>
JJ was/is an athlete playing qb. Worked out wellfor him in hs... this isnt hs anymore.
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I think the coaches have tried with some success to change it, but when his instincts take over, which they often have to, he reverts back to the actions that college defensive players can turn around on him.
Once agian, maturity and exp is something that JL does at least have now,, is it enough to fix his problems of the past?? IDK.
JJ's problem once again is that IMO he isnt a true qb, and for the most part athletes playingthis position at this level generally dont make it.. unless you are exceptional, and JJ isnt that.
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:13 am to Prominentwon
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I really think Jefferson is going to drop the ball this year and Lee is going to end up behind center by the end of the year.
maybe
But if that happens, miles loses the entire team IMO
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:14 am to TheDoc
Honestly I don't feel confident with either QB under center. Do yall think it's just a lack of talent at the position or that LSU doesnt have the coaching to develop a good QB?
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:15 am to josh336
True on Miss State. My point was, that Miss State didn't belong on the same field talent wise and yet Jefferson's inability to move the ball almost resulted in a L. Which is also true.
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:15 am to TheDoc
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miles loses the entire team IMO
Miles would lose the team for putting in a qb that was playing hypothetically better?
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:16 am to tfl41
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Do yall think it's just a lack of talent at the position or that LSU doesnt have the coaching to develop a good QB?
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:17 am to TheDoc
BTW, thanks Hot Carl for starting/framing an intellectually interesting thread that other posters are constructively and respectfully contributing to. It's almost like the rantards are all in algebra or something.
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:17 am to TIGRLEE
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JJ's problem once again is that IMO he isnt a true qb
see, I don't have a problem with anyone on this board except for you
especially when you make rantarded comments like this
we all know what you are saying
we can read between the lines
why isn't JJ a "true " qb?
And what does that even mean?
Was tebow a "true" qb?
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:17 am to tfl41
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Honestly I don't feel confident with either QB under center. Do yall think it's just a lack of talent at the position or that LSU doesnt have the coaching to develop a good QB?
you think that b/c both had to play at a young age and we havent been as successful at this position as we are accustomed to being.
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:19 am to josh336
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Do yall think it's just a lack of talent at the position or that LSU doesnt have the coaching to develop a good QB?
I don't think it is a lack of talent, for sure. I believe every successful QB can point to the coach that helped him turn the corner.
This post was edited on 4/9/10 at 8:21 am
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:19 am to TIGRLEE
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you think that b/c both had to play at a young age and we havent been as successful at this position as we are accustomed to being.
I think that because there has been little or no improvement in the play of both QBs.
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:21 am to TheDoc
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why isn't JJ a "true " qb?
cant you read?
Ive said it 100 times... he is an atlete playing qb..many many here agree with me.
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Was tebow a "true" qb?
no.. but what he is ... is head and shoulder better "athlete" than JJ.
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see, I don't have a problem with anyone on this board except for you
especially when you make rantarded comments like this
hate to tell you bro but if you chose to mistake truth for ranter comments... then not sure what to tell you.
Posted on 4/9/10 at 8:26 am to TheDoc
You say it was OL play. I say it was JJ locking solely on his primary receiver and when he wasn't open he held the ball FOREVER, leading to a sack. Look back at most of his sacks, you can't expect the OL to block that long.
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