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re: Why would a depth limited team like LSU start an ACE against a lower seeded team?

Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3669 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:01 pm to
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What did their pitchers do on Sunday? Did they give up runs too or throw shutouts?


They scored 11.2 R/G and gave up 5.3 R/G on Sundays in conference play scoring less than 9 only twice and giving up more than 7 only once.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33511 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:04 pm to
Are we still really discussing this?
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2998 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:05 pm to
They are usually giving up 4-7 runs on Sunday with 10 runs in week 2 (9-10 to ECU) being the worst game and the only sunday game they lost all year. We are giving up 8-12 runs per game on Sunday and have been run ruled MULTIPLE times.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32054 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Are we still really discussing this?


There's not a lot going on elsewhere
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10009 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:16 pm to
I'm over it. I'm fine with them throwing whoever. Just advance. If they don't advance, we will be right back here discussing it again.
Posted by FateOfTheTigers
Member since Feb 2024
3 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:19 pm to
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Baseball traditionalists are insufferably snobby. Does baseball use an objective point scoring system that determines which team wins a game? I'm pretty sure they do. They award a single POINT for every run. If a team earns 7 runs, there's 7 POINTS on the scoreboard. They are interchangable, it isn't that serious.




See page 10 sec. 1 from the official NCAA rule book. I don't see anything about points in there....
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 12:37 pm
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33511 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:28 pm to
Clearly, seven pages isn’t enough to convince OP that his line of thinking isn’t the best. Doubt any number of pages will do the trick.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11031 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Baseball traditionalists are insufferably snobby. Does baseball use an objective point scoring system that determines which team wins a game? I'm pretty sure they do. They award a single POINT for every run. If a team earns 7 runs, there's 7 POINTS on the scoreboard. They are interchangable, it isn't that serious.


Call me a snob all you want. I can honestly say it has been years since I heard someone refer to a score in baseball as points. And it was someone who knew nothing about baseball, except that it was a sport.

quote:

If you read further down from that post I corrected myself. I was thinking ole miss but wrote aTm.


Noted. That's fair.

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But even by your own response, we have beaten ZERO teams with a winning record on Sundays during the regular season. We also got run ruled like 4 times on Sunday and allowed around 9 runs per game.


Then you should have just said that instead of using hyperbole.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
35284 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 2:17 pm to
7 pages if people calling you an idiot. Just stop.
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2998 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 2:42 pm to
I wouldn't say 7 pages of people calling me an idiot.

It's about 40% people saying absolutely not. 20% of people saying JJ is going to start an ace regardless of whether or not if the right decision. 20% of the people are on the fence weighing both sides. And about 20% of the people think saving our aces for UNC is the correct call.

The only people calling me an idiot are insufferable assholes like yourself.
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2998 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 2:47 pm to
That's why we are able to have an open discussion about it.

If I have some time this weekend I'm going to try and compile some stats on the Regionals winner's bracket game 3 win rate of 1 & 2 seeds that pitch down in game 1.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33511 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 3:01 pm to
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If I have some time this weekend I'm going to try and compile some stats on the Regionals winner's bracket game 3 win rate of 1 & 2 seeds that pitch down in game 1.


You do that.

Still won’t change the fact that you throw your best to ensure the game 1 W.

You may not agree with it and that’s okay. You asked a question in the op and it was answered. You’ve spent the last 6 pages arguing why the people that answered YOUR question, are wrong.
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2998 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 5:27 pm to
Have I ever stated that anyone else's answer was wrong?

This is a nuanced debate with no OBJECTIVELY correct answer. If someone offers talking points that I didn't bring up in my OP that I don't belive are valid justification, it is my duty as the questioning party to debate their reasoning and express WHY I disagree with their reasoning. Why are you so mad that someone has a differing opinion, and would like to debate their opinion? I think slavery would still exist without an open dialog.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:04 pm to
Because Wofford has a “true” ace starting he’s decent but would he be an ace in the sec probably not maybe a Saturday or Sunday guy!
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
6043 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:58 pm to
You play to win the game! Pretty sure I heard someone say that before.

Have to try & insure a 1-0 start, then figure out from there.
Posted by atllsu
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2003
992 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:05 pm to
Wofford can hit! They have some Power 5 talented hitters that can hit some bombs! A couple of their hitters could be playing in SEC next year, especially Hare and Mannelly.
Posted by GulfCoastTiger8
Biloxi, MS
Member since Jun 2011
150 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:18 pm to
What a waste of time. Paul Skenes
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:48 am to
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The only people calling me an idiot are insufferable assholes like yourself


Insufferable has to be the favorite adjective of this Board. Especially preceding assholes. The only insufferable part of this thread is that you’ve literally typed the same Novel over and over and over again.

The reality is that there is no question that Jay is not going Whole Staff tomorrow morning. Just sit back, give the thumbs a rest and watch Jump go to work.
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:52 am to
Haha who are you man?? Somehow correlating slavery with LSU baseball. That’s impressive.
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2998 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 4:00 am to
Use your brain, it's an exaggerated analogy. It's what people that are capable of discussion often use to enforce their point.

I didn't compare baseball to slavery. I compared a non-standard opinion about baseball to a non-standard opinion about pre-abolition slavery in relation to the questioning OP i had presented. I could've used nazi Germany as an example and it would've been the same example.

There's nothing wrong with presenting a non-standard reasoning then proceeding to ask why it is either wrong or right. That's just a debate, but you already knew that. Unless you didn't, if so, I can't help you.
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