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Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:17 pm to
Or

His team quits in the middle of the season.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89551 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:24 pm to
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His team quits in the middle of the season.


I never indicated I was not disappointed in that - hell, for all I know, players may have gotten wind of all this first and it contributed to this quitting. Sure happened all of a sudden.

Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:25 pm to
I think the frustration for many fans is they feel hopeless with Les Miles as coach. 2011, when LSU had arguably the best college team ever, only to get embarrassed by our most hated rival, in our back yard, many fans came to the conclusion; "LSU has nearly zero chance to win a national championship with Les Miles as coach."

That's not saying Miles is a bad coach or we couldn't have a successful program with him. Many fans just want our Tigers to win another title at some point in the future and it has become more and more clear over the past few years it is very unlikely to happen with Miles as coach.
Posted by MetTiger
Member since Oct 2007
1213 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:25 pm to
Pro-Miles or Time to Change - one thing we should all agree on is that the national and SEC media

NEVER

has LSU's interest at heart
Posted by diehardtiger68
Gateway to the Marsh
Member since Feb 2009
576 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:28 pm to
same people on here calling for a new coach, and running Miles out of town and bashing him.....are the same ones that will be bitching and crying if the coach they want is not hired and returns LSU to the 90's book it
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

Are you saying the last 4 years have been mediocre?


yup thats what hes saying.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6907 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:30 pm to
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But now the same usual suspects are falling all over themselves melting over any criticism said about a coach that isn't even here yet?

It makes no sense.


I think Les is a good guy. I just can't feel sorry for coaches who make millions of dollars per year getting criticized. The coach doesn't care what fans think of their methods. If a fan wants to spout off and think he knows more than a coach, where's the real harm? Obviously, any power 5 head coach has forgotten more about football than nearly any fan.

We can feel or think whatever we want to, but the tail doesn't wag the dog. The folks on this board are not the reason that there will likely be a change. Anyone angry about this needs to direct it at the AD and major boosters. I'm not angry about it if its Fisher. I will be upset if we end up mired down in a coaching search.
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

I never indicated I was not disappointed in that -

Didn't mean to suggest you did. Just pointing out that's one of Les' biggest downfalls, IMO.
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hell, for all I know, players may have gotten wind of all this first and it contributed to this quitting. Sure happened all of a sudden.

True, for this season. But the problem is this is a pattern. It started in the 2nd half of the 2012 BCS. You saw it clearly last year after Bama, with Arky. Then, in the bowl game.

In his first half at LSU, I don't recall it happening. Seemed they were always fighting until the end. Most troubling thing about the team lately, is what seems like a quitting mentality when things get tough. I can't figure out anything to blame that on but coaching. HC has to be able to get team believing every game is important, regardless of record, etc.
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:32 pm to
BF;DR
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48382 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:33 pm to
The PosiTigers? The guys that viciously attacked any critic of Miles?

They are extinct.

Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

I think the frustration for many fans is they feel hopeless with Les Miles as coach. 2011, when LSU had arguably the best college team ever, only to get embarrassed by our most hated rival, in our back yard, many fans came to the conclusion; "LSU has nearly zero chance to win a national championship with Les Miles as coach."

That's not saying Miles is a bad coach or we couldn't have a successful program with him. Many fans just want our Tigers to win another title at some point in the future and it has become more and more clear over the past few years it is very unlikely to happen with Miles as coach.




All of this x 1,000,000
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48382 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

That's not saying Miles is a bad coach


Coach Miles's poorly-coached football teams will no longer be tolerated.

Whether he's a great coach or not is irrelevant. What's decisive is that his teams are poorly-coached and this will no longer be tolerated.
Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
6344 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

Rickdaddy4188


What happened to the JaxTiger alter?
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25944 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:41 pm to
Miles has sucked since 9/26/05 when he blew a 21 point halftime las against Tennessee. I've always thought he was a fricking clown.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10186 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

But here's to a new direction where everyone will become "posi-tigers"


Will never happen. Miserable people are miserable. Many of the same people will be calling for Coach Next's head the moment something goes awry.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202955 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:48 pm to
Yes I am. Mediocre. Sec= 6-2, 5-3, 4-4, and another 4-4. Getting $4 million a year. Sorry but with all these so called 5 star recruits that mediocre. Hey I like miles. He is a great guy and has done some great things while here. But it's time to move in a different direction
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:50 pm to
They aren't all doing it, you still have pos posters like Winston318 and Northshore...both doing everything they can to bash Miles every chance they get.

I think most of them are just glad a decision has been made and they are actually acting with a little class...unlike the two posters I mentioned above.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Few are condemning the guy.

What? The majority off the poster on here are shitting on our 2012 & 2013 seasons just to shite on Miles.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202955 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:02 pm to
I don't see any of this.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65136 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:12 pm to
You say people will discredit LSU's accomplishments this past 10 years because of hatred for the coach

On the other hand, people like you sound like your boy love for Miles is superseding your interest in LSU shooting for a potentially better future than with him at the helm
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