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re: Why the frick is A&M a 65% favorite to beat LSU
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:51 pm to CajunPhil
Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:51 pm to CajunPhil
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College Station is a tough place to play. Probably almost as big a home field advantage as Tiger Stadium used to be
We certainly have had no issues stomping them over there recently though. They are improved with Jimbo and the QB has serious wheels. I'm not sure why they would be favored though. They could beat LSU, but LSU already won at a place that is traditionally harder to win at against a team that is in the top 10.
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Posted on 9/24/18 at 12:53 pm to LNCHBOX
I don't disagree that it would be near impossible to change my mind, lol. To me quitting would be he stopped recruiting and stopped his attention to details for an extended time period such as 6 months or more. A bowl game that you win or lose that isn't the National Championship is great to win and you want to win but really it isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. He still didn't quit though, he tried to win that game.
We can agree to disagree though, I'm not the arguing type. Discussion yes, arguing no.
We can agree to disagree though, I'm not the arguing type. Discussion yes, arguing no.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:02 pm to LNCHBOX
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Saban quit, bottom line.
I think you are quibbling over semantics just to argue for its own sake. I don’t think Saban (or Jimbo for that matter) quit in the sense most mean. Obviously Saban turned in his resignation and I don’t think he should have been coaching that game, but he didn’t quit, he was distracted, there’s a difference. If you want to argue he quit on someone it would be in the Dolphins
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:03 pm to H-Town Tiger
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think you are quibbling over semantics just to argue for its own sake
I'm not the guy making an argument that Jimbo isn't a good coach
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:05 pm to Lahurricane08
Why are you worried about a game that is not being played until November? 
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:15 pm to windmill
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It's mainly record and rank when evaluating a team. Don't try to undermine their rank and record of LSU. You're reaching.
Then why is A&M favored? If it's "mainly record and rank", then why is others receiving votes, 2-2, aTm favored over number 5 ranked, 4-0 LSU?
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:17 pm to LNCHBOX
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I'm not the guy making an argument that Jimbo isn't a good coach
That’s a separate argument and i disagree with about Jimbo quitting on FSU last year but even there its different than Saban at LSU where at worst it was 1 game, he was not checked out the 2004 season
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That’s a separate argument and i disagree with about Jimbo quitting on FSU last year but even there its different than Saban at LSU where at worst it was 1 game, he was not checked out the 2004 season
Does it really count as checked out for Jimbo when you lose your stud starting QB for the season in week 1?
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:21 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Where have you seen updated lines from Lsu A&M as the favored team?
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:24 pm to Lahurricane08
ESPN's FPI is just a marketing tool.
They use it to act like they actually have some analytical prowess to back up their BS.
But, even if you believe that their underlying statistical model is correct, and that's a reach itself, right now they don't have enough current season data, and are still mainly using their half-baked preseason guesstimates.
It won't be for another 3 or 4 weeks until it will even have enough good current season statistics.
One stat you notice ESPN never touts is just how correct FPI's predictions are, either in predicting winners or the final point spread. It's nowhere near as good as they try and make you beliee.
They use it to act like they actually have some analytical prowess to back up their BS.
But, even if you believe that their underlying statistical model is correct, and that's a reach itself, right now they don't have enough current season data, and are still mainly using their half-baked preseason guesstimates.
It won't be for another 3 or 4 weeks until it will even have enough good current season statistics.
One stat you notice ESPN never touts is just how correct FPI's predictions are, either in predicting winners or the final point spread. It's nowhere near as good as they try and make you beliee.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:32 pm to LNCHBOX
Neither am I, I actually said I think he is a good coach. I'm just pointing out that he is not a great coach that is to be feared really by a school like LSU. We will quite possibly lose some games to his teams but we will also beat him just as many if not more.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:33 pm to LSUAlumnus2001
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I'm just pointing out that he is not a great coach that is to be feared really by a school like LSU.
And you base this off of what again?
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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Does it really count as checked out for Jimbo when you lose your stud starting QB for the season in week 1?
No, like I said I don’t think he quit, but I do think things had gone sour at FSU and it was probably best for all involved for him to move on. Maybe at the end he was checking out, but it’s not like he wasn’t trying to win, hell didn’t they have to win that rescheduled game to get bowl eligible?
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:36 pm to H-Town Tiger
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No, like I said I don’t think he quit, but I do think things had gone sour at FSU and it was probably best for all involved for him to move on. Maybe at the end he was checking out, but it’s not like he wasn’t trying to win, hell didn’t they have to win that rescheduled game to get bowl eligible?
None of that takes away from the very impressive run he had there, which is the point of this discussion you jumped into the middle of. Dude doesn't think Jimbo should be feared at a school with basically unlimited money for resources. That's nuts.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:39 pm to Lahurricane08
Not really, we playing Ole Miss this week. Should be the only concern
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:39 pm to LNCHBOX
To be fair, I don’t think the FSU q.v. is even close to being a stud....
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:39 pm to LNCHBOX
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And you base this off of what again?
Mostly personal opinion which I understand doesn't hold much weight to others opinions with which I'm fine but also his tenure at FSU didn't really strike any fear into me from the mighty ACC. I could totally be wrong and if so then oh well. Whether he checked out or not, I just don't think any great coach would've allowed his tenure to end like it did.
This post was edited on 9/24/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:41 pm to LSUAlumnus2001
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but also his tenure at FSU didn't really strike any fear into me from the mighty ACC
It just ended the SEC streak of national champions, made it to the first CFP, etc No biggie.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 1:43 pm to LNCHBOX
I don't consider Clemson to be the whole ACC. Yes, they are very good but other than them they haven't had much.
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