re: Why No Hating On The Defense?

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That wasn't my quote, but I thought that 4th and 16 conversion by Clemson was pretty damn big.

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Bigger than 3-13 on 3rd down conversions? Bigger than 219 total yards against a bad defense? Bigger than 2nd and 2, trying to run out the clock and throwing 3 passes in a row? Really? That one play was the big difference in the game?

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That one play was the big difference in the game?

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Look, if you want to go on record as stating that the Clemson 4th and 16 conversion from their own 14 with a min to go was not a big difference in the game, knock yourself out.

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Look, if you want to go on record as stating that the Clemson 4th and 16 conversion from their own 14 with a min to go was not a big difference in the game, knock yourself out.

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Yes, I'm going on record to say that one play did not cost us the game. Amazing.

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Bigger than 2nd and 2, trying to run out the clock and throwing 3 passes in a row? Really? That one play was the big difference in the game?

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Mett said the 2nd play was a run-pass check. He chose to pass.

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Worn down???

From what? LSU had the half time to rest and the O was on the field 9 mins in the 3rd. At the start of 4th, worn out shouldn't have been the main reason Clemson went 140 yds in their series vs. the LSU D.

Maybe in their 3rd series when they went 60 yds to win the game.

It was a team loss. Both sides of the ball failed to do what was needed in the 4th.

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How many points is it okay for the defense to allow? 0? Any above that and the loss is obviously the defenses fault since the team would not have lost if the defense has just allowed 0 points.

From roughly 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter to the end of the game the offense had possession for roughly 5 minutes in game. 5 minutes, out of twenty. The offense had drives of 1:33, 2:06, and 1:00 flat that that time period. The defense defended a drive 7 play drive and forced a punt, followed by a 13 play drive that lead to a field goal. They were gassed at that point and the offense put them right back on the field 2 minutes later to defend another 11 play drive, after which the offense put together another stellar drive taking a massing 1 minute off the clock and put the defense right back out there.

Yes, they got worn down in the 4th quarter. That's what happens when you 41 snaps in the last 20 minutes of a football game. LSU only had 48 offensive snaps in the whole game. Clemson ran nearly as many plays in the last 20 minutes as LSU ran in the whole game.

If you let teams run that many plays they will eventually find things that work, and your defense will eventually wear out. Defense can't win games by themselves (despite gifting the offense TWO turnover inside Clemson's 30). The secondary was a problem but the offense was a disaster. Way different levels of blame to spread around there.

Fire Stud, Fire Javi.

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the defense was in trouble from the start.

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The defense that created a turnover on the first drive that allowed us to score?

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I did play football and I was a stud on my 6th grade team. So....there.

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The defense that created a turnover on the first drive that allowed us to score?

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Yes, apparently giving up 13 points in 3 quarters and causing two turnovers within the opponents 30 yard line is "in trouble". Much like getting 10 YPC is "getting stuffed at the line". Whatever it takes to sell the narrative that the offensive coaching wasn't the problem and it was REALLY the defense that let the team down, just like the rest of the season.