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re: Why is wanting better for LSU football a negative?

Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:47 pm to
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Either you are all-in with Les Miles or YOU HATE LSU.



This is also my observation.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:48 pm to
And it's a dumb, dishonest observation.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7587 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:50 pm to
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So you never had a problem with coaching ever?

I swear there are posters on this board that are incapable of drawing reasonable conclusions. If someone isn't screaming for Miles to be fired, the conclusion is that you have no issues with the coaching, ever.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:50 pm to
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This is a lie. Every sunshine pumper is critical of Miles. Every single one.


It's not a lie. I disagree with you.

In my observation, almost all criticism of Miles is met with almost immediate personal attacks and name-calling. The attacks are so coordinated and robust that it raises the question of whether there's some concerted effort to shout down and beat down critics.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:52 pm to
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And it's a dumb, dishonest observation.



There you go again with the immediate personal attacks.

I tell you those LSU fans who like Miles are bigger Miles fans then they are LSU fans.

The Miles critics are subjected to coordinated and constant personal attacks in an attempt to shut them down and beat them down until they quit posting.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7587 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:53 pm to
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there's some concerted effort to shout down and beat down critics.

I don't know about a concerted effort, but someone needs to beat down the vocal minority that makes the fanbase look like a bunch of baby back bitches.

Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:53 pm to
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The Miles critics are subjected to coordinated and constant personal attacks in an attempt to shut them down and beat them down until they quit posting.


This is true regardless of a poster's opinion of Miles
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:54 pm to
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almost all criticism of Miles is met with almost immediate personal attacks and name-calling


This is SO true...........
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
51443 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Nothing. Everyone wants that. Just, some people are fricking retards.

What's wrong with calling an idiot an idiot?



MORE personal attacks from the Miles Sunshine Pumpers !!

I rest my case about how they seek to beat down all Miles critics until they quit posting.

Miles is an idiot. He's not a great football coach.

No amount of personal attacks on me is going to change my opinion or cause me to quit posting.
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3866 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:55 pm to
There comes a point where LSU is not John Curtis, where winning a title every year of every decade is expected and anything less is seen as a failure or in the words of some, "mediocrity."
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:56 pm to
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In my observation, almost all criticism of Miles is met with almost immediate personal attacks and name-calling. The attacks are so coordinated and robust that it raises the question of whether there's some concerted effort to shout down and beat down critics.



Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
51443 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:56 pm to
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People who claim that there are such people are morons.




More personal attacks from a Miles Sunshine Pumper !!

We'll all be sorry once Michigan or some NFL team steals Miles away from LSU, won't we Miles Sunshine Pumpers ???

Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:58 pm to
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The Miles critics are subjected to coordinated and constant personal attacks in an attempt to shut them down and beat them down until they quit posting.


This is true regardless of a poster's opinion of Miles


Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86591 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:59 pm to
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No amount of personal attacks on me is going to change my opinion or cause me to quit posting.


That's fine but your opinion is not based on anything legitimate
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Quite a few of them are likely on the Miles gravy train. Family, friends of his, in the athletic department, paid posters, etc. Once Miles stops making his millions at LSU, their cash cow goes away forever so they will fight until the end to make sure he stays at LSU.



Right because why would any lsu fan defend the coach that just gave lsu fans its most successful decade, EVER,unless Mikes is paying them.i hate our ignorant fan base.
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
51443 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Miles is an excellent recruiter, media personality, fund raiser and executive of the LSU Program. We graduate players top in the SEC(minus Vandy) and generally have no major discipline issues(We never compete for the infamous Fulmer Cup) and have had no major NCAA infractions, we had a minor issue with a scout service and took care of it. We hire and pay top coordinators and have one of the few financially elite programs. All of these are testaments to Les Miles who is a 1st rate human being.

Now having said that, the flip side is Miles makes very poor personnel decisions sometimes just to spite himself. The Beckwith-Welter issue, our current QB issue, the JJ/JLee debacles, his constant changing RBs at times for no reason, his issues with Terrance Toliver when he was our best WR, it goes on and on and for no explainable reason.

Why he recruits DT QBs to run a pro style offense? Why he recruits pass catching TEs when he uses them primarily to block? He's too loyal to a fault with sub par coaches like Stud and BDP. His gameday coaching is lacking and his teams never appeared prepared. His gameplans appear simple and do not take advantage of obvious mismatches or opportunities. Plain and simple Miles is not an Xs and Os coach, his schtick has become stale and he will average a couple of losses a year from here on out. It will take some stars align type situations to just win the SEC.


Why did a Miles Sunshine Pumper downvote this cogent, no-nonsense post?

BECAUSE THEY ARE FANATICAL MILES SUPPORTERS.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:00 pm to
You're talking to what has to be 2 of the biggest miles nut suckers ever. Don't waste your time. They'd rather see the program run completely in the ground before admitting they might be wrong.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:03 pm to
Shut the frick up you dumb frick
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79327 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Either you are all-in with Les Miles or YOU HATE LSU.


Such a lie.

I like Miles, he has faults like every coach. The problem is people go beyond criticism. I acknowledge that saban is the best coach in the country, but I also acknowledge that Las is a great coach, not some bumbling idiot. I want LSU to win.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86591 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:03 pm to
There are legitimate gripes with miles, as there are with every coach not named nick saban, but he's still much better than most and if he leaves we're far more likely to downgrade than we are upgrade
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