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re: Why is Lee still throwing off his back foot?
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:59 pm to LSUMafia
Posted on 10/17/10 at 11:59 pm to LSUMafia
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The problem right now is that Lee sometimes is pressing, and why is that? He's put in situations completely out of his hands. Mainly JJ and Miles/Crowton's insistence on playing him screws up any rhythm Lee gets and he starts to think too much later in games.
this is something that can be fixed and should be able to fix in practice, doesn't have to be in a game to know how to through off the correct foot. You're analyzing it way to much.
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Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:00 am to LSUMafia
quote:I agree.
The problem right now is that Lee sometimes is pressing, and why is that? He's put in situations completely out of his hands. Mainly JJ and Miles/Crowton's insistence on playing him screws up any rhythm Lee gets and he starts to think too much later in games.
quote:Same thing I expected from JJ to start the season. . .improvement.
For shite's sake, UT was his first action in almost a year and he's thrown in with JJ handing them 7 points. What do you expect of the kid?
In my mind, Lee looked the same with UTk as he did in 2008. JJ just looked so much worse than 2008.
Lee looked like a man vs. UF. . .then looked like Lee 08 against McNeese. . .but so did everyone else.
quote:How so? by saying that JJ should not see the field for the rest of the season, and that Lee has a back-foot issue?
but reality is that you are critiquing him 100x harder than JJ
That is critiquing Lee 100X harder?
Should I be calling JJ a unrepentant child rapist? Would that be fair to my "Lee still has a back-foot issue" criticism?
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:02 am to gismap
It isn't going to be corrected at LSU. JJ still requires much more time than most QB's and that hasn't been corrected. Something we have to live with.
Think we are over analyzing this way too much. I don't care really as long as Lee plays like he has been.
Think we are over analyzing this way too much. I don't care really as long as Lee plays like he has been.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Again, I meant this to be a pretty casual thread.
. I don't care really as long as Lee plays like he has been.
Never said it was a major issue right now.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:17 am to Roaad
My biggest worry about Lee is the same I had about JJ, and that is losing confidence. LSU waited too late in '08 to spell Lee IMO, and has done the same with JJ this year. Don't mind mistakes as long as the upside can cover, but losing confidence will destroy this offense. JJ has totally lost it as Lee did in '08. My guess is that a few bad outings will put Lee there again.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:18 am to Roaad
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Why is Lee still throwing off his back foot?
He promised Miles that he would keep the QB competition fair?
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:21 am to Roaad
I didn't know there was a yardage deduction for artistic impression. I guess I didn't see the judges at the scorer's table on the sideline.
Or, in short, who the hell cares?
Just as long as he gets it there. It only matters where it goes.
Or, in short, who the hell cares?
Just as long as he gets it there. It only matters where it goes.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:That was one of the major points I was making in my thread on both QB's after the UTk game. JJ is shot between the ears.
My biggest worry about Lee is the same I had about JJ, and that is losing confidence.
Lee was, but seems to have overcome. . .but we don't KNOW that he has.
We won't know until something bad happens.
A pick-6 vs. McNeese might have been just what the doctor ordered. . .as wierd as that sounds.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:23 am to matt314
quote:rewatch the games.
Just as long as he gets it there. It only matters where it goes.
I am convinced he would be near 95% completion percentage if he set. When he sets, he has been an assassin. Every time there is a bad throw, that is the reason.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:24 am to RobbBobb
quote:Or maybe he doesn't know he is doing it?
He promised Miles that he would keep the QB competition fair?
That is the only answer that could really scare me.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:37 am to Roaad
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I am convinced he would be near 95% completion percentage if he set. When he sets, he has been an assassin. Every time there is a bad throw, that is the reason.
You don't know what you're talking about. The 4th and 14 against Tenn was thrown off the right foot sliding sideways. Unlike JJ, who does have step into just about everything and has a slow two count motion, JL can actually use his arm and wrist almost completely on short stuff and only needs his legs on really long throws. It's just style. What you can do on a practice field and what you have to do when you play are different.
And, no, he won't get to 95% by correcting this "fault." Right now is not a time to start screwing with the kid's mechanics. You'll wind up with a head case like JJ. The less our brain trust works with JL the better off we'll be. His dad is a football coach. Think maybe he'd tell JL if he thought it was that important?
Posted on 10/18/10 at 12:41 am to Roaad
meh, roaad, I just watched a slew of NFL games where NFL QBs are throwing all sorts of passes off of their back feet.
Not that I don't agree, it scares me every time I see him try to arm it in there off the wrong foot.....but, it's not getting fixed, and I'd rather live with the lively arm QB than the non throwing non running QB.
Not that I don't agree, it scares me every time I see him try to arm it in there off the wrong foot.....but, it's not getting fixed, and I'd rather live with the lively arm QB than the non throwing non running QB.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 1:04 am to Roaad
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Roaad
You're really taking it hard, about JJ flopping and all
Posted on 10/18/10 at 5:30 am to Roaad
It's just inconsistant play. Which could be on the coaches. Just seems like both qbs take plays off.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 7:28 am to Roaad
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Or maybe he doesn't know he is doing it?
That is the only answer that could really scare me.
it's typically 1 of 2 things...pressure from the D, or he sees the receiver open and pulls the trigger too quick, relying on his arm strength to get the ball there. Although some shorter, screens and touch throws aren't made with a big step into the ball anyway.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 8:06 am to SPEEDY
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Maybe Jefferson should start trying to throw off his back foot
Posted on 10/18/10 at 8:07 am to RobbBobb
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You're really taking it hard, about JJ flopping and all
poor rooad.
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:39 am to RobbBobb
quote:How so?
You're really taking it hard, about JJ flopping and all
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:40 am to ForeLSU
quote:I agree in a general sense.
it's typically 1 of 2 things...pressure from the D, or he sees the receiver open and pulls the trigger too quick, relying on his arm strength to get the ball there.
But he often throws falling away from pressure that isn't there.
I wonder if he still has the mindset that last year's OL is playing?
Posted on 10/18/10 at 11:41 am to matt314
quote:mechanics didn't screw up JJ. He throws the ball the same.
You'll wind up with a head case like JJ.
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