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why is it called a pro set offense?

Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:33 pm
List the pro teams whose offense mainly consists of 1 WR receiver sets with two TE's and a fullback and with the oline lined up bunched in tight and runs mostly off tackle and inside pitch run plays and throw 18 passes a game? We run the 4th and 1 formation/plays as our base offense. It should be called the 4th and 1 base offense system.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:34 pm to
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List the pro teams whose offense mainly consists of 1 WR receiver sets with two TE's and a fullback and with the oline lined up bunched in tight and runs mostly off tackle and inside pitch run plays and throw 18 passes a game? We run the 4th and 1 formation/plays as our base offense. It should be called the 4th and 1 base offense system.





this is pro-set. would be a great formation with hilliard/lf7..
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted by KingBeingking
Member since Jul 2014
2388 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:34 pm to
We could just call it the scoreboard offense. You know like we are winning. Why run up the score. Let's just go. Run. Win. Repeat.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27799 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:35 pm to
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It should be called the 4th and 1 base offense system

Good call, you should start a petition.
Posted by CyrustheVirus
Member since Jan 2013
2870 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:35 pm to
Why is the a full back not the furthest back in the back field? Why does a tackle not tackle people? You suck...
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 12:36 pm
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:36 pm to
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this is pro-set. would be a great formation with hilliard/lf7..


that's a pretty good pro set, would like to see us use it some times
Posted by SECond2none™
Member since Aug 2003
7730 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:36 pm to
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Why is the a full back not fully back in the back field? Why does a tackle not tackle people? You suck...
Don't even get me started on the tight end...





Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:37 pm to
Please post less.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:38 pm to
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You suck...


you suck because you keep saying the offense we run is a 'pro set' offense when no pro team run what we run
Posted by CyrustheVirus
Member since Jan 2013
2870 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:40 pm to
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you suck because you keep saying the offense we run is a 'pro set' offense when no pro team run what we run


Link? Never have I posted about our Pro set offense. Go ahead and search my 1100 plus posts.


Stop getting caught up in the lingo of the game if you don't understand it.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:42 pm to
it's called a pro-style offense...not pro set
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:47 pm to
We did run the pro set at times last night from the shotgun, but the offense you described is a simple I with one wide. This is the formation everyone is bitching about.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:47 pm to
Cam runs what would have been considered a pro-style offense about 5-10 years ago. Today, many NFL teams have gone to more single back and shotgun formations. FB is often manned by hybrid TE in heavy sets for a lot of teams.

The WR route trees and the complexity is considered pro-style. Even when the Tigers go vanilla and conservative, there is a lot more going on than there was in Crowton's incoherent craziness or Stud's color by numbers playbook.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44553 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:49 pm to
Pro style and pro set aren't the same thing fyi
Posted by Wolf
Member since Sep 2005
1336 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:57 pm to
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boxcar willie


Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66417 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:02 pm to
1. its called a pro style offense

2. Look at the saints. they will come out with Drew Under center most plays, and they will come out with a fullback and a RB and maybe 2 wide, and they are about as wide open an offense as there is in the NFL. They used to have the TE block, but Jimmy can't block so they don't anymore.

3. How often we vary our formation during cupcake games is different than the style of that system.

4. How many pro teams line up with 4 wide in the shotgun every play?
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6057 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:11 pm to
Because pro is the personnel grouping that consists of 21 personnel. Or 2 backs, 1 tight end.

pro style is a term used for a multiple formation and personnel set offense. A team that is 10 personnel spread isn't multi pro just as a flexbone or wing t offense isn't considered pro style because they don't formation or personnel set a bunch of different ways
Posted by Tigerfan_95
Member since Jun 2014
2932 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:15 pm to
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it's called a pro-style offense...not pro set
and pro style means anything that would resemble a traditional pro offense, it's not a specific formation set like people think
Posted by Dick Macho
New Iberia
Member since Jun 2013
920 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:43 pm to
Relax bro. You are making drama where there really is none to dramatize about.

The formation is called the 2TE I-Form and along with the single TE I-Form they are Les Miles' favorite method of will imposition.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16790 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 2:02 pm to


This is indeed the classic pro set. It got its name in the late 50's, when most teams adopted it. The New York Giants were the last team to mostly use the old tight T-formation.

The second WR is the "flanker back." He is a back, so must lineup a step off the LOS.

Throughout the sixties and mid-seventies, the "fullback" ran the ball as much or sometimes more than the halfback or "tailback." Teams either lined the backs up as illustrated, or used an I formation.

Notable fullback-halfback pairings where the fullback carried as much as the half included Don Perkins and Dan Reeves of the Cowboys, Dick Bass and Willie Ellison of the Rams, and of course, Jim Taylor and Paul Hornung of the Packers.

Teams stayed in the pro-set most of the time because during the 60s and 70s, the active roster for an NFL team was 40 players, not 53 like today. Formation evolution was limited because you could not carry 7 WR's on the roster to come out with these 5 wideout sets, etc. The same thing was true for defense, but that's another story.
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