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re: Why is everybody so impressed with Alabama
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:41 pm to lilmoonlsu
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:41 pm to lilmoonlsu
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Why is everybody so impressed with Alabama
Their history, things be chang'in
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:46 pm to boxcar willie
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so just play in some crappy conference and go undefeated and the committee should let you in over a one loss team who plays in a tough conference like the SEC and have won multiple NC's in recent years.
If bama beats LSU and wins the SECCG then by all means your argument is valid.
It is my understanding that as of now bama hasn't done shite except lose to ole miss and get some average wins against teams plenty of others have beaten also. Not to mention not winning more convincingly than others in doing so. So if the playoffs started Saturday, no, they should not be top 4 based on nothing but assumptions.
Is that what the committee was voting on? Where they think people will finish, or who would be in as of now?
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:56 pm to Lsuchs
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Is that what the committee was voting on? Where they think people will finish, or who would be in as of now?
I think they are voting on who the best teams are right now and who could be a legitimate NC right now. I think that would have to include Alabama and LSU right now. LSU is legitimately in and Bama is a 7 point favorite over us, so they have to be in right now if you are talking about the best teams. So no, not Memphis or Baylor or any of the other crappy undefeated teams.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:07 pm to boxcar willie
Why do they "have to be in" as of now is what I'm asking you? Besides the 247compposite the last 3-4 years what have they done to be a head of Florida right now?
Besides "coulda/woulda/shoulda", "look how many 5 stars", "they are favored over LSU"...
UF literally mirrored bama's performance against UGA and UT, and destroyed an Ole Miss team that bama lost to at home.
Both are 7-1, UFs loss was to #2 on the road not #18 at home.
If you are voting on who you think would win or who you think is more talented and not what has been done on the field bama would still be in with 3 loses lol.
This entire thing you have built up in your head is subconscious bias based on past bama squads and recruiting classes. Look at the games this year.
This 2015 bama squad hasn't earned shite yet. Maybe they will maybe they won't
Besides "coulda/woulda/shoulda", "look how many 5 stars", "they are favored over LSU"...
UF literally mirrored bama's performance against UGA and UT, and destroyed an Ole Miss team that bama lost to at home.
Both are 7-1, UFs loss was to #2 on the road not #18 at home.
If you are voting on who you think would win or who you think is more talented and not what has been done on the field bama would still be in with 3 loses lol.
This entire thing you have built up in your head is subconscious bias based on past bama squads and recruiting classes. Look at the games this year.
This 2015 bama squad hasn't earned shite yet. Maybe they will maybe they won't
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:18 pm to inadaze
No idea how any self-respecting Tiger fan could "like" Saban. Respect his coaching abilities, absolutely. Like? Impossible.
I get what you're saying, they have a big strong line, I get that. But the addition of Clapp, pocic, and teuhuma in the middle of our OL has strengthened our line. I firmly believe we have the best OL in the country (run blocking at least) and they have the best front 7. So why is it that they get the benefit of the doubt that they will stop us? I think they have to prove they can stop us, because no one else has. UT is the closest team from a physicality standpoint that they have played, and they did not shut them down. It was a slug fest for sure, but I don't think UT is as good as LSU.
I have no clue how you don't think Florida doesn't have a way better secondary. It's obvious, I don't care about stats in that regard. Bama let Kelly go for 330 against them, while UF shut them down. Bama's is sooooo inflated because of the A&M game. Ask anyone in the country and they say Bama's secondary is pedestrian and middle of the road.
I get what you're saying, they have a big strong line, I get that. But the addition of Clapp, pocic, and teuhuma in the middle of our OL has strengthened our line. I firmly believe we have the best OL in the country (run blocking at least) and they have the best front 7. So why is it that they get the benefit of the doubt that they will stop us? I think they have to prove they can stop us, because no one else has. UT is the closest team from a physicality standpoint that they have played, and they did not shut them down. It was a slug fest for sure, but I don't think UT is as good as LSU.
I have no clue how you don't think Florida doesn't have a way better secondary. It's obvious, I don't care about stats in that regard. Bama let Kelly go for 330 against them, while UF shut them down. Bama's is sooooo inflated because of the A&M game. Ask anyone in the country and they say Bama's secondary is pedestrian and middle of the road.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:24 pm to Lsuchs
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I bet you assumed they would beat ole miss
Yes I did. I am sure you assumed bama wouldn't be in the top 4...what is the difference? You don't make assumptions? Have you not made assumptions in this thread?
I think LSU & Bama are better than all the undefeated teams except for Clemson. I think those are the best 3 teams. No matter what I think they can all lose...you see there isn't a dominant team in CFB this year. That is my opinion and I will think that way until a team separates themselves from the others.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:31 pm to Topwater Trout
You assume I thought they wouldn't be in the top 4. I didn't care to guess but I am definitely upset about the bias and benefit of the doubt they receive.
What assumptions have I made? That bama lost to Ole miss and UF hasn't?
I guess an assumption I have made is people will still want bama in based off of perception not results. And you have proven me right
If the whole point of the committee was to take take out Ws and Ls and insert human opinion/bias then we are right on track, and bama couldn't be happier. Give me the BCS computers and a 4 team playoff over this crap
What assumptions have I made? That bama lost to Ole miss and UF hasn't?
I guess an assumption I have made is people will still want bama in based off of perception not results. And you have proven me right
If the whole point of the committee was to take take out Ws and Ls and insert human opinion/bias then we are right on track, and bama couldn't be happier. Give me the BCS computers and a 4 team playoff over this crap
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:35 pm to ForeLSU
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Want it to stop, beat there azz. Simple as that
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no, it won't stop it...
I'm mean like, leave no doubt, beat that azz
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:40 pm to DTRooster
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I'm mean like, leave no doubt, beat that az
This is all we can do.
126 teams have to prove they belong in the playoff.
1 has to prove they don't it seems.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:44 pm to lilmoonlsu
Let's beat them first then let everyone form an opinion about Alabama after.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:44 pm to boxcar willie
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Is that what the committee was voting on? Where they think people will finish, or who would be in as of now?
They're only supposed to look at current resumes, but I don't think they did that with Bama. It doesn't really matter right now. If Bama wins, the committee was right, and if they lose they're out of the playoff picture for the time being.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:46 pm to LSUButt
quote:For the record, if I remember correctly the picks against a&m were overthrows in which a Bama's player happened to be behind the play and the ball went right to them as opposed to making a break on the ball. Correct me if I am wrong.
I have no clue how you don't think Florida doesn't have a way better secondary. It's obvious, I don't care about stats in that regard. Bama let Kelly go for 330 against them, while UF shut them down. Bama's is sooooo inflated because of the A&M game. Ask anyone in the country and they say Bama's secondary is pedestrian and middle of the ro
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:59 pm to shrevetigertom
I think the selection committee has the right 4 teams in there right now. They got the four most powerhouse teams in the country right now in there instead of some bullshite TCU, Baylor, or Memphis or some other crappy undefeated team. After this weekend either Bama or LSU is going to be out, but as of today how could you leave either out?
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:10 pm to boxcar willie
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After this weekend either Bama or LSU is going to be out, but as of today how could you leave either out?
I agree this is all irrelevant after this week bc one will be in and one will be out. And it will have been earned.
A a of today it's easy to leave bama out in my opinion bc they haven't done anything special besides have an A on their helmet. If they were undefeated with an average schedule yeah you can't leave them out, but they have already lost w an average schedule to date. They have not proven to be a dominant team until they have a win worthy of negating that loss. I've already given my other reasons plenty of times in this thread so I won't waste your time on it.
At the end of the day we are both still pulling like hell for the tigers Saturday. Hopefully it will be a good day for us
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:31 pm to LSUButt
That's right. I like Saban. I have since his LSU days.
I wonder how you came up with this. I didn't say it. Not only did you make it up, but you didn't even define "stop". You'd have to define that for your straw man to even mean anything substantial. What I did say is that I think Alabama's front has the advantage over the LSU OL. I'm basing that off what my eyes have seen of the players. I've been more impressed with the physicality of Alabama's front. I think LSU's OL has played surprisingly good this year, but at the same time, there have been some plays where guys have gotten beat and allowed penetration. Sometimes the penetration didn't have an impact on the play, but that is an issue when thinking about how they will do blocking Alabama's front. Also, without Gordon, I don't think the LSU TEs match up well in this game.
I would say Georgia.
If you look at how Tennesse had success running the ball, it was mostly on read option plays where Hurd and Dobbs were able to the edges of the Alabama D. Alvin Kamara had his longest run (12 yards) on the same type of play where he was able to get the edge. They weren't piling up yards running directly at the Alabama front.
Georgia and Arkansas (particularly Sebastian Tretola for Arkansas) are very physical Offenses. Arkansas hasn't been very consistent with their power-running game this year, but when they're playing well, I'd give them the edge over Tennessee in terms of physicality.
I'm sure you would if the stats fit your bias/narrative.
Kelly had a good game, but there were also some fluky plays in that game.
They'd be wrong. That's the second time I've seen that word used incorrectly on the Rant today.
Alabama does not have a middle-of-the-road secondary.
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So why is it that they get the benefit of the doubt that they will stop us?
I wonder how you came up with this. I didn't say it. Not only did you make it up, but you didn't even define "stop". You'd have to define that for your straw man to even mean anything substantial. What I did say is that I think Alabama's front has the advantage over the LSU OL. I'm basing that off what my eyes have seen of the players. I've been more impressed with the physicality of Alabama's front. I think LSU's OL has played surprisingly good this year, but at the same time, there have been some plays where guys have gotten beat and allowed penetration. Sometimes the penetration didn't have an impact on the play, but that is an issue when thinking about how they will do blocking Alabama's front. Also, without Gordon, I don't think the LSU TEs match up well in this game.
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UT is the closest team from a physicality standpoint that they have played
I would say Georgia.
If you look at how Tennesse had success running the ball, it was mostly on read option plays where Hurd and Dobbs were able to the edges of the Alabama D. Alvin Kamara had his longest run (12 yards) on the same type of play where he was able to get the edge. They weren't piling up yards running directly at the Alabama front.
Georgia and Arkansas (particularly Sebastian Tretola for Arkansas) are very physical Offenses. Arkansas hasn't been very consistent with their power-running game this year, but when they're playing well, I'd give them the edge over Tennessee in terms of physicality.
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I don't care about stats in that regard.
I'm sure you would if the stats fit your bias/narrative.
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Bama let Kelly go for 330 against them
Kelly had a good game, but there were also some fluky plays in that game.
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Ask anyone in the country and they say Bama's secondary is pedestrian and middle of the road.
They'd be wrong. That's the second time I've seen that word used incorrectly on the Rant today.
Alabama does not have a middle-of-the-road secondary.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:32 pm to Lsuchs
Bama was 3rd per BCS computers.
And your damn right I want them ranked as high as possible before we play them. Why wouldn't I or any other fan? What looks better for LSU beating a #4 ranked Bama team or #7?
And your damn right I want them ranked as high as possible before we play them. Why wouldn't I or any other fan? What looks better for LSU beating a #4 ranked Bama team or #7?
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:46 pm to lilmoonlsu
I'm NOT impressed! 
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:24 pm to Topwater Trout
i pray for everybody!
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:33 pm to Big Scrub TX
Because they win the recruiting national championship every year. That is what the ESPN assclown from Georgia said last night. Should be obvious!!! Duhhh
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:50 pm to LSUGoo
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Guys, their front 7 is the best in football...
Are you basing this of the "eye test?"
Rushing defense versus SEC only -
> Rushing defense versus Ranked opponents -
Rushing defense versus teams with a winning record -
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