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re: Why doesn't LSU play good teams before SEC play?

Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:07 pm to
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I would rather see LSU play E. Carolina than Sacred Heart.

But E. Carolina has to agree to do it, don't they? Do you know if they would? I don't.


you are taking it to literal. Take a deep breath and relax

it doesnt have to be east carolina. Any team of that caliber. And replace Sacred Heart with Holy Cross, shoot, it doesnt matter. both are horrible.

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Again, how old do you think I am? And why does that matter to you anyway?



it irrelevant either way, because you come across as a snobby old man that thinks he knows more than he does. To me you'll always be the snobby, senile old man that loves to argue about nothing in particular.

but but but "Who knows if ECU will play us!!@@????"

yeah old man, no fricking shite. I don't know if they will play us. It's a goddamn example of a type of team that LSU could surely lure year to year.

We get it, you are part of the baseball coaches club. it doesn't mean that you know anything about the game itself.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:08 pm to
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ProjectP2294


What is your stance on LSU scheduling a road series against legit competition prior to SEC play?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:08 pm to
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I put them in the mid-week category. I don't think we should ever play an in-state school on the weekend unless it is in a round-robin that we would host.



ahhh cool, i prob just read it too fast. i agree.

But watch it, most people think that playing 4 nobodies each weekend of OOC is a good thing.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:09 pm to
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We get it, you are part of the baseball coaches club. it doesn't mean that you know anything about the game itself.


BOOM!!!!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:11 pm to
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1) Schedule at least one premier weekend series like CSF this year (3 or 6 games)
2) One gimme series, like Duquesne or Holy Cross (3 games)
3) One or two middle of the road series like Kansas a couple years ago. (3 or 6 games)
That is almost what we do. We played the middle of the road teams like Illinois, Indiana, Central Florida and Wake Forest.

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Tulane always gets home and home.
Almost always does.

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NO SWAC TEAMS (unless it's Southern)
Roger Cador says he won't play LSU again unless it's home and home.

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ULL, SELU, and Tulane are the only state schools we should play every year.
Why? McNeese, Nicholls St. and Northwestern are usually respectable (don't forget Nicholls St. beat LSU, 3-1, at the Box in our CWS championship season in 2009) and playing them is good politics with the legislature. We may not like that fact, but it IS a fact.

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or Dallas Baptist
Is that like playing Sacred Heart?

By my count, your method would cost LSU 4 or 5 home games/year. That equates to between $400,000-$500,000 lost ticket sales/year. Not going to happen......
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:14 pm to
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What is your stance on LSU scheduling a road series against legit competition prior to SEC play?


Do it, but only to a place that is within reasonable travel distance from New Orleans

Seriously though, the 3rd or 4th weekend they could go out west or to a Big 12 team or top tier ACC team to play a series and I would be all for it. I wish Mainieri would relax his stance on playing former assistants so we could play UVa in the regular season.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:15 pm to
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By my count, your method would cost LSU 4 or 5 home games/year. That equates to between $400,000-$500,000 lost ticket sales/year. Not going to happen......


So basically money takes precedent over a better prepared baseball team.

Let me guess. You mad about the Oregon game next year because it prevents LSU from playing ULL at home and making a kajillion dollars, right?
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:16 pm to
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Do it, but only to a place that is within reasonable travel distance from New Orleans

Seriously though, the 3rd or 4th weekend they could go out west or to a Big 12 team or top tier ACC team to play a series and I would be all for it. I wish Mainieri would relax his stance on playing former assistants so we could play UVa in the regular season.



That's reasonable.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:20 pm to
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that thinks he knows more than he does.
Kettle...meet pot. I know I know more about LSU baseball than you. If you don't think so, just ask me.

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senile old man
There you go again. So it does matter to you, doesn't it?

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It's a goddamn example of a type of team that LSU could surely lure year to year.
And you know that....how? Flying a team in for one, mid-week game from the east coast costs how much? $15,000? $20,000? More than that? You're really not very realistic.

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it doesn't mean that you know anything about the game itself.
I sort of do. And we're not debating "the game itself," are we? We're debating scheduling and costs. I DO know a lot about that.

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We get it, you are part of the baseball coaches club.
You sound jealous. I tell you what: you're invited to be my guest (I'm allowed one guest per meeting) at the next meeting and you can ask your questions and make your suggestions to coach Mainieri.

He'll be glad to tell you all the same things I've already told you in this thread. Then maybe you won't let facts get in the way of your stupid, unfeasible opinions.

I'll let you know when the next meeting is. Deal?

Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:21 pm to
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Tulane always gets home and home.

Almost always does.


I didn't say that it doesn't happen, I'm saying it would be part of my ideal schedule.

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Why? McNeese, Nicholls St. and Northwestern are usually respectable (don't forget Nicholls St. beat LSU, 3-1, at the Box in our CWS championship season in 2009) and playing them is good politics with the legislature. We may not like that fact, but it IS a fact.

Because none of the other teams in the state are consistently good enough, combined with having a good enough history against LSU, and a big enough LSU fan base in their area. (McNeese comes close)

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or Dallas Baptist

Is that like playing Sacred Heart?

So you only follow LSU baseball, not college baseball as a whole.

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By my count, your method would cost LSU 4 or 5 home games/year. That equates to between $400,000-$500,000 lost ticket sales/year. Not going to happen......


Tickets will sell regardless, but in-stadium revenues will go up if you bring in better teams. Sometimes you have to travel to bring in better teams. LSU doesn't NEED to play 39 of 56 at home.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:22 pm to
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or Dallas Baptist


Is that like playing Sacred Heart?


So you only follow LSU baseball, not college baseball as a whole.




Dallas Baptist>>>>>Sacred Heart
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133477 posts
Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:26 pm to
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So basically money takes precedent over a better prepared baseball team.
Usually people who say money doesn't matter has never been responsible for managing much money.

How do you know the team is not prepared by playing the teams we play now?
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You mad about the Oregon game next year because it prevents LSU from playing ULL at home and making a kajillion dollars, right?
LSU will make up almost all of that that money for the lost home game from the TV money for playing that game. Plus the recruiting exposure in the Dallas market is good for future years.

You're really not knowledgeable or prepared enough to discuss these issues, are you?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75811 posts
Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:29 pm to
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LSU will make up almost all of that that money for the lost home game from the TV money for playing that game. Plus the recruiting exposure in the Dallas market is good for future years.


Where will the new TV revenue from SEC baseball on ESPN go?

Would a mid week home and home with Rice or USM not help recruiting in those areas as well? We recruit Houston and Mississippi for baseball.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:30 pm to
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And you know that....how? Flying a team in for one, mid-week game from the east coast costs how much? $15,000? $20,000? More than that? You're really not very realistic.


yes, i want ECU to fly in for a mid week game.

geez, you are a retard

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You sound jealous. I tell you what: you're invited to be my guest (I'm allowed one guest per meeting) at the next meeting and you can ask your questions and make your suggestions to coach Mainieri.

He'll be glad to tell you all the same things I've already told you in this thread. Then maybe you won't let facts get in the way of your stupid, unfeasible opinions.

I'll let you know when the next meeting is. Deal?


no offense, but I would never hang out with you in real life. As it is you seem to be hurting for friends by begging people on here to go to meetings with you. That speaks volumes.

this is just a message board, we are all just talking. if i cared that much i could have PMs cell # in about 3 minutes and id let him know how i feel. But in reality i dont care enough about it. Just discussion point on a message board.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:31 pm to
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Usually people who say money doesn't matter has never been responsible for managing much money.

How do you know the team is not prepared by playing the teams we play now?


Yeah, I know nothing about managing money

The team could likely be better prepared playing intra-squad games then facing the competition they have played thus far.

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LSU will make up almost all of that that money for the lost home game from the TV money for playing that game. Plus the recruiting exposure in the Dallas market is good for future years.


So that doesn't matter for baseball recruiting? YES, I know its different but still.

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You're really not knowledgeable or prepared enough to discuss these issues, are you?


There you go with your holier than thou attitude again
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133477 posts
Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:38 pm to
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I'm saying it would be part of my ideal schedule.

Then you already get your wish.

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or Dallas Baptist


Is that like playing Sacred Heart?


So you only follow LSU baseball, not college baseball as a whole.
I know Dallas Baptist lost to that college baseball powerhouse Missouri State last weekend. They are 4-2, having also lost to Univ. Texas-Arlington and having won against Indiana St (3 games), Ok. State and South Dakota State. I also know they played in the Tex A&M regionals two or three seasons ago and lost to two nobody teams. I don't recall them making any other regionals in the last decade. What else do you think I should know about them?

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but in-stadium revenues will go up if you bring in better teams.
Every OOC weekend series at the Box this season is sold out or will be selling only standing room only tickets. How many more tickets can a better opponent sell?

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LSU doesn't NEED to play 39 of 56 at home.
It's better than NOT playing that many games at home.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133477 posts
Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:41 pm to
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Where will the new TV revenue from SEC baseball on ESPN go?
To the SEC, which divides up the money among all the SEC teams and the SEC office.

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Would a mid week home and home with Rice or USM not help recruiting in those areas as well?
We played Rice in the Pontiff game a few years ago. I'd love to play them in a home and home mid-week game every year. We play S. Miss almost every year as it is.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:41 pm to
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LSU doesn't NEED to play 39 of 56 at home.

It's better than NOT playing that many games at home.


"better" is very subjective, but in your mind better=mo' money....
Posted by mightynine
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:43 pm to
Wait a minute, are we now complaining that the LSU baseball program makes money?
Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/28/11 at 6:46 pm to
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Wait a minute, are we now complaining that the LSU baseball program makes money?


Not complaining at all, just debating the merit of playing a decent OOC schedule and perhaps losing 3 home games.
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