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Why doesn't chavis execute a defence like....
Posted on 8/2/10 at 5:39 am
Posted on 8/2/10 at 5:39 am
The jets? We have all the weapons. Good coaches don't always force the players to their scheme, but create a scheme around their weapons
not a chavis hater, and the same philosophy should be used with the offense. But don't you think he should mix things up and not follow crowtons mind set?
Opinions?
not a chavis hater, and the same philosophy should be used with the offense. But don't you think he should mix things up and not follow crowtons mind set?
Opinions?
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Posted on 8/2/10 at 6:09 am to RBWilliams8
We have the lockdown CB, that's about it. To compare out DL and LB units to the Jets is laughable at best.
Having said that, Rex Ryan's book on coaching an attacking defense is my favorite football book. Would love to see some of his tactics applied, but it's not Chavis' style and he's been doing it this way for ages so I wouldn't expect a change.
Having said that, Rex Ryan's book on coaching an attacking defense is my favorite football book. Would love to see some of his tactics applied, but it's not Chavis' style and he's been doing it this way for ages so I wouldn't expect a change.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 6:12 am to RBWilliams8
quote:
defence
agaIn?
Maybe bc the chief /=/ Rex Ryan
Jesus where do u people come up w/ this shite
This post was edited on 8/2/10 at 6:15 am
Posted on 8/2/10 at 6:13 am to Honkus
quote:
defence
Posted on 8/2/10 at 6:25 am to Polycarp
and while we are at it, why don't we execute offense like the saints or colts
Posted on 8/2/10 at 6:32 am to RBWilliams8
quote:
Opinions?
My opinion is that Chicken needs to install Spellcheck on his site ASAP
Posted on 8/2/10 at 6:57 am to Globalx39
quote:
why don't we execute offense
dont you mean "offence"?
Posted on 8/2/10 at 6:59 am to Icansee4miles
I was referring to the sign people used to hold up D-fence (d- /-/-/-/) ... Yeah, that's what it was damn it was like 5:00 in the a.m. From a phone, Grammar Is the best y'all can come up with?
Also I wasn't comparing the d line and lbs, just but maybe if we attempted to put a little extra effort into the pass rush we would be a little more comparable
Posted on 8/2/10 at 7:02 am to RBWilliams8
quote:
From a phone
It's all good bro. My phone posting sux too. I tried the find a dee-fence image on Imageshack to post for you, but ran out of patience.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 7:03 am to RBWilliams8
Why don't we scheme like the Jets?
Because we don't have 11 NFL starters on defense.
Because we don't have 11 NFL starters on defense.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 7:20 am to jonboy
quote:I thought it was because we didn't have green and white uniforms.
Because we don't have 11 NFL starters on defense.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 7:28 am to La Place Mike
quote:
La Place Mike
Posted on 8/2/10 at 7:29 am to jonboy
A pee wee team can mimick an offense... Don't have to necessarily have NFL atheletes and they arnt playing against professional players for that matter
.... And as far as the saints or colts comment... I'm sure an attempt at their play style couldn't be much worse than crowtons blue book...
Why is this such a hard subject to follow? I'm sorry guys, just proceed with the miles bashing and qb threads... You guys are sure to keep it interesting that way
.... And as far as the saints or colts comment... I'm sure an attempt at their play style couldn't be much worse than crowtons blue book...
Why is this such a hard subject to follow? I'm sorry guys, just proceed with the miles bashing and qb threads... You guys are sure to keep it interesting that way
Posted on 8/2/10 at 7:33 am to RBWilliams8
1. Chavis' base defense is what?
2. Rex Ryan's base defense is what?
3. We DO NOT have the personnel necessary to run Rex Ryan's defense.
.
2. Rex Ryan's base defense is what?
3. We DO NOT have the personnel necessary to run Rex Ryan's defense.
.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 7:36 am to jdrumdog
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We DO NOT have the personnel necessary to run Rex Ryan's defense.
My point exactly.
And sorry, but a pee wee team cannot mimick an NFL offense. Oh they can get in pro formations maybe, but that will be about the extent of it.
This post was edited on 8/2/10 at 7:39 am
Posted on 8/2/10 at 8:15 am to RBWilliams8
RBWilliams8,
Couple of things. You mention that a peewee team can mimic a team’s offensive/defensive schemes. While a peewee team could in fact line-up in the same formations as the Jet’s defense, it’s so difficult to explain how complicated this defense is. People think Rex Ryan is just some fat, arrogant animal who just lets the dogs loose 24/7. In reality it’s easily the most complicated defense in the NFL.
There are so many bango and tango blitz packages for the front 7 and pattern reading in the secondary that it requires guys who are simply elite technicians at their position. When you have a DE matched on a RB out of the backfield he has to do everything perfect to be able to negate this offensive advantage; this is what is so tremendous about watching the Jets. They are defensive poetry in motion.
The truth is that your base 4-3 defense (or you can call ours a 4-2-5 if you want but it’s not) is MUCH easier to adapt and tweak to less technically sound players. The reads and keys and packages are so much simpler and it’s why Chavis has been using it for so long. I would like for Chavis to get a little more exotic and intricate with his blitzes (although first and foremost I’d like for him to work on the timing more than anything) but a move to a defense as complicated as Rex’s in college would be a disaster.
Couple of things. You mention that a peewee team can mimic a team’s offensive/defensive schemes. While a peewee team could in fact line-up in the same formations as the Jet’s defense, it’s so difficult to explain how complicated this defense is. People think Rex Ryan is just some fat, arrogant animal who just lets the dogs loose 24/7. In reality it’s easily the most complicated defense in the NFL.
There are so many bango and tango blitz packages for the front 7 and pattern reading in the secondary that it requires guys who are simply elite technicians at their position. When you have a DE matched on a RB out of the backfield he has to do everything perfect to be able to negate this offensive advantage; this is what is so tremendous about watching the Jets. They are defensive poetry in motion.
The truth is that your base 4-3 defense (or you can call ours a 4-2-5 if you want but it’s not) is MUCH easier to adapt and tweak to less technically sound players. The reads and keys and packages are so much simpler and it’s why Chavis has been using it for so long. I would like for Chavis to get a little more exotic and intricate with his blitzes (although first and foremost I’d like for him to work on the timing more than anything) but a move to a defense as complicated as Rex’s in college would be a disaster.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 8:20 am to RBWilliams8
Why can't we have the Colts offense and the Jets defense?!!!
Posted on 8/2/10 at 8:22 am to RBWilliams8
Posted on 8/2/10 at 8:26 am to RBWilliams8
I think the more appropriate question would be why doesn't he run a defense like the Saints. The strength of Greg Williams D is the backfield, should be the same for LSU this season.
Read an interesting quote by GW a couple weeks ago saying that in the new NFL (more passing), you have to build your defense from the outside in.
Read an interesting quote by GW a couple weeks ago saying that in the new NFL (more passing), you have to build your defense from the outside in.
Posted on 8/2/10 at 8:26 am to josh336
and to think, he thought this was better than bashing miles.
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