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re: Why doesn't Aranda ever get any blame?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:04 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:04 pm to Topwater Trout
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We had a 7 point lead
Only because of the defense
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allowed what a 89 yard drive to allow a tie.
Down 4 starters after the defense had scored,caused 2 negative yardage 3 and outs, and stopped them on 4th down.
Youre inability to hold your deity accountable leaves you holding the defense to levels youd never hold your deity to.
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4th and 19 and allowed a TD and you think the D doesn't deserve any blame bc the offense should've put the game out of reach?
Out of reach? They needed one 1st down. Good god your bias is glorious.
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:04 pm to SammyTiger
You were pleased with our defensive play against florida? no need to even have a discussion with you if thats the case
I don't
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Like how do you defend an offense that scored 19 points?
I don't
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:06 pm to Topwater Trout
You made a decent point about the last drive and the 4th and 19. And then you do this.
you don't win with yards or first downs. But anyone that knows anything about football knows that those stats are better for determining how well a defense did than just the points allowed in the game. Just stop
you don't win with yards or first downs. But anyone that knows anything about football knows that those stats are better for determining how well a defense did than just the points allowed in the game. Just stop
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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They needed one 1st down. Good god your bias is glorious.
and didn't get it...so we were behind when the defense took the field? I am lost the offense lost the lead when they had to punt??? the offense allowed A&M to go 90 yards
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:07 pm to Topwater Trout
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wow points scored doesn't outweigh a few meaningless stats...you're a fricking moron. I am done owning you
Again, your points doesnt take into account your deity's choices that directly affected the defense.
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will try to simplify how dumb you are
Does the team with the most yards win?
Does the team with most first downs win?
Does the team whose defense scores win every game?
Did the defense hold a&m to its 2nd lowest production of the season?
Is it the defenses fault the offense cant get a single 1st down after gift wrapping them 3 straight 3 and outs and a defensive
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Held a&m to its 2nd lowest yards total
Held a&m to least amount of 1st downs all year
Held them to fgs in 2 of the 1st 4 ots.
don't forget to mention that defense actually put points on the board.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:10 pm to Chet Donnely
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you don't win with yards or first downs. But anyone that knows anything about football knows that those stats are better for determining how well a defense did than just the points allowed in the game. Just stop
holy shite yall are terrible at reading comprehension
what is the most important stat in a game? it's points scored and allowed it determines the WINNER. Ist downs don't, total yards don't, number of catches, passes thrown...etc...none of those stats determine who wins over points on the scoreboard
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:10 pm to Topwater Trout
Nobody is saying the defense is perfect. No defense ever has been or ever will be.
But the defense has played well under Aranda as a whole that they are allowed a slip up here and there without people being ready to fire Aranda.
Ask yourself this. If you were a Bama fan and Saban goes 9-3 next year, would you want him fired? Would you say “wait a minute. Maybe this Saban guy ain’t all that good after all”. Hell no you wouldn’t. Why? Because he’s built up enough clout that he is allowed to slip up sometimes and not be questioned much. That’s where we sit with Aranda.
But the defense has played well under Aranda as a whole that they are allowed a slip up here and there without people being ready to fire Aranda.
Ask yourself this. If you were a Bama fan and Saban goes 9-3 next year, would you want him fired? Would you say “wait a minute. Maybe this Saban guy ain’t all that good after all”. Hell no you wouldn’t. Why? Because he’s built up enough clout that he is allowed to slip up sometimes and not be questioned much. That’s where we sit with Aranda.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:10 pm to Topwater Trout
In a vacuum I would Probably say 30 points an under 400 yards offense is a good day
The only reason I wouldn’t be ok with it is if say, ournoffense was shite and scored 19 points.
Take this arguement to the extreme
If we played every game like florida and lost 20-19 ( well ignore the pick 6 for arguments sake)
Our defense would be a top 20 scoring defense.
Our offense would be a bottom 5 defense.
Who would you blame more for the 0-12 season?
The only reason I wouldn’t be ok with it is if say, ournoffense was shite and scored 19 points.
Take this arguement to the extreme
If we played every game like florida and lost 20-19 ( well ignore the pick 6 for arguments sake)
Our defense would be a top 20 scoring defense.
Our offense would be a bottom 5 defense.
Who would you blame more for the 0-12 season?
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:11 pm to Topwater Trout
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and didn't get it...so we were behind when the defense took the field?
Right? So if you know that the only reason you have lead is because of a defensive td and your defense just stopped them 4 straight times, you place blame on the defense?
The defense has to come through 5 times, while the offense can fail and your blame is on the defense?
And for the record at no point did i say the defense gets no blame but after the 4th quarter they put in where it was punt after punt and they gift wrap a win where you need 1 1st down? I and most people put the majority of the blame on the offense.
And the defense was down 4 starters and a significant backup.
But the defense isnt blameless.i never said they walk away unscathed.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:13 pm to Topwater Trout
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I am calling out the defense
That's right, call out the unit most responsible for the LSU success.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:15 pm to LSU Groupee
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That's right, call out the unit most responsible for the LSU success.
Its because he sees the defense as independent from O. If he calls out the offense its a direct reflection of O and his pal at OC.
He will never hold this staff accountable.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:15 pm to AshLSU
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the defense has played well under Aranda as a whole that they are allowed a slip up here and there
well they lost ND and A&M and to me Florida.
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fire Aranda.
lol at anyone who thinks this...i just don't think he earned his 2.5 mil this year. Chavis had some great defenses with bad offenses at LSU and was crucified for allowing teams to score late and beat us.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Its because he sees the defense as independent from O
god you're dumb...O is more involved with the d than the O
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:17 pm to Topwater Trout
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well they lost ND and A&M and to me Florida.
All of that is to you.
You’re just reinforcing the problem we have had for almost a decade
I look At all 4 quarters. Because that how long FB games are.
2013 when we lost 43-41 against UGA, and they scored to close the game? That’s on the fricking defense all the fricking way.
When you lose 21-17... I dont Care if we were up by 3, the offense didn’t do enough to win that game, and arguing that they did is absurd. You’re basically arguing a 3-0 lead is good enough.
We should rely on the defense to win every game no matter how animec the offense is.
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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independent from O
I wonder if there is a message in that for us.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:25 pm to SammyTiger
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You’re just reinforcing the problem we have had for almost a decade
I believe we shouldn't lose with the strength of our team on the field and a lead.
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When you lose 21-17... I dont Care if we were up by 3, the offense didn’t do enough to win that game, and arguing that they did is absurd.
In 2012 when Bama drove and score a td at the end of each half you still blame the offense for that loss?
I think in 2014 when we lost in OT
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:25 pm to Topwater Trout
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That's right, call out the unit most responsible for the LSU success.
But you can blame aranda for the offense a d its not a direct reflection of O.
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god you're dumb.
My act scores
Sat scores
Degree
IQ
And salary shits on yours.
Im sorry you dont understand football.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:26 pm to Topwater Trout
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well they lost ND and A&M and to me Florida.
Except he didn’t.
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lol at anyone who thinks this...i just don't think he earned his 2.5 mil this year. Chavis had some great defenses with bad offenses at LSU and was crucified for allowing teams to score late and beat us.
If Aranda didn’t earn his money then Orgeron didn’t earn his.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 3:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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god you're dumb...O is more involved with the d than the O
Not according to Canada.
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