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Why does LSU not have a big band like years past?

Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26077 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:46 pm
I remember growing up they always had a big band. Last few years I noticed they are smaller compared to other schools. Any reason for that?
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18084 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:47 pm to
I've noticed the quality has diminished. Who's in charge over there?
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14497 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:48 pm to
TGBFTL is a shell of its former self
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35683 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:50 pm to
If I played band in HS and kept hearing mumble rap pumped into the stadium I’d rather just be a student.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 9:52 pm
Posted by East Texas Tiger 99
East Texas
Member since Nov 2013
541 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:53 pm to
Needs to be BIGGER and more brass!!!!
Would help the gameday experience a lot!
Also some of the shows suck compared to past!
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 9:55 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164615 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:54 pm to
The band needs to retire that gay music they play between defensive snaps like they retired the 2018 EEEEEEEEEEEEER uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh EEEEEEEEEEEER uuuuuuhhh
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60817 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:56 pm to
Because of a lack of music education in public schools and kids aren't interested in playing a real musical instrument like they were in the past.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 9:57 pm
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14497 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:56 pm to
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Any reason for that?


No college aged kid wants to go into college band and play Oye Como Va and Jungle Boogie for four years.

An updated music list would go a long way.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22473 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:59 pm to
I don't know but when I was in high-school, the band there had probably 200 people in it, now the high school band looks like 20 people.
Posted by TigerDenWest
Lake Charles, La
Member since Jan 2005
384 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:00 pm to
Band programs at every level are struggling now post Covid.

Teaching band via a webcam is virtually impossible, so a lot of students quit band programs in 2020-21.

It will take a few years to stabilize unfortunately at the HS and college levels.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172498 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:01 pm to
It’s the same 325. It’s just not the same directors it was a decade ago. Even under Roy King as show quality decreased the big sound was still there. The School of Music owns Tiger Band now and they made an embarrassingly poor hire.
Posted by AndrewD
Member since Oct 2013
725 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:12 pm to
Ill take Hey Baby over Welcome to the Jungle any day
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34491 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:18 pm to
People always overlook Boogie Down but that song roars.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15142 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

It’s the same 325. It’s just not the same directors it was a decade ago. Even under Roy King as show quality decreased the big sound was still there. The School of Music owns Tiger Band now and they made an embarrassingly poor hire.


Well said. Dr. Jones was supposed to be interim director until LSU could find a top quality replacement. Here we are almost seven years later and Jones is still Tiger Band director. Halftime shows are amateurish and the big powerful sound is gone.
Posted by TheAstroTiger
Member since Jun 2018
3101 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:00 pm to
Tgbftl needs to updating imo. I get they play the same core songs every year but my goodness they need to add something new every now and again.
Posted by GBFTL 8yr75gm
Member since Aug 2022
209 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:12 am to
quote:

I've noticed the quality has diminished. Who's in charge over there?
It's a long story. (For those that don't care about the subject or have weak attention spans, just skip this all together and move on)

It's the fault of the Music School, Band Department and the Athletic Department. All 3 are to blame.

Neither Dean of the Music School (Todd Queen) or the Director of Bands (Damon Talley) or the LSUAD GAS about Marching Band any longer.

After Frank Wickes retired, Associate Tiger Band Director Linda Moorhouse was elevated to the head position. She got into "multiple" disagreements with then Music School Dean Lawrence Kaptain and left late over the summer to take a position at the University of Illinois. (She's currently still at Illinois)

What followed was a series of Lazy "Moving up the Assistant" hires. (Roy King. Dennis Ilinas. Kelvin Jones) None of whom had any previous College marching band directorship experience. (High School only)

Not once did LSU conduct a national search and interview qualified candidates for the position. They just kept moving assistants up. (No matter how "Unqualified" they were or how little experience they had)

That's why there has a been a steady and rapid decline of the once great Golden Band from Tiger Land.

Nobody is coming here to play for Kelvin Jones, just like they were not coming here to play for Ilinas or King.

If you want to correlate it to football, it's like if LSU (Scott Woodward) going out and hiring a high school football coach to take over the football program. No way that happens, but it's exactly what has happened to Tiger Band.

Half-Times can be creative and entertaining enough that fans will want to stay in their seat and watch the show. (Ohio. State, Texas A&M, Jacksonville State, Multiple HBCU bands, etc.......)

With a few permanent changes in the organization, it could happen again at LSU.

* Move the entire GBFTL operation completely out of the Music School and into the AD.

* THE MOST IMPORTANT. Conduct a nation wide search for an experienced Head Director and then let him (Or her) hire the Staff that they want. (Just like in football)

* Put all GBFTL members on full "Athletic" scholarship (Like football)

* Tiger Band also scheduled for Spring and Summer Class meetings to keep it going and not get stale musically.

* Increase size of the band to 350-400 and eliminate all woodwinds. A 350-400 member All-Brass Marching Band would blow up 102,000 seat Tiger Stadium. (See Jacksonville State)

* Increase weekly practice time (Monday 3 hours. Tuesday-Thursday 2 hours. Friday 3 hours) Eliminate the Saturday afternoon practice. (If you prepare and rehearse well during the week, it's not needed)

Athletic Department funds the entire thing, but keeps their nose completely out of the operation. Overseen, managed and run by the Director, Assistants and Staff. (All of whom have extensive College Marching Band and/or DCI Drum Corps experience)

The only purpose being to execute the LSU game day experience and to put on a killer half-time show that people will WANT to watch..........


Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7128 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:13 am to
quote:

Halftime shows are amateurish and the big powerful sound is gone.


I thought the Latin show was pretty good this year.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172498 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:14 am to
quote:

Dean of the Music School (Todd Queen)

Bitch
quote:

Director of Bands (Damon Talley)

Bigger bitch
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172498 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:16 am to
quote:

People always overlook Boogie Down but that song roars.


Boogie Down fricks
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46320 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:32 am to
Damn I think my old high school band has 350 people. They hired some kick arse band director who everyone loves and somehow made it cool to be in band. They are massive with like 20 tubas and sound like a college band. LSU needs to do the sane thing
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