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re: Why does it have to be the coaches fault? Why not blame the players?

Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Gaterhator
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:36 pm to
I don't know if it is delusional thinking that LSU is superior to Arkansas or rather just arrogant.

After all, Miles' record against Arkansas is 6-5, 4-5 since 2007, and if not for two gifts (Johnson fumbling going in to the EZ in 2012 and a freshman CB biting on a double move in the final minute in 2013) Arkansas would be on a 4-0 run against LSU and Miles would be looking up at 4-7 and 2-7.

LSU squeaked by in 2009 in OT. The only time in recent history has LSU dominated the game was 2011. I would say the last two have seen LSU be dominated.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:37 pm to
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Why does it have to be the coaches fault?


Because they are ultimately responsible for the success or failure of the program.
Why should anyone have to explain this to you?
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Nice edit



Where'd you get that from? Deflection via deception?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:42 pm to
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I don't know if it is delusional thinking that LSU is superior to Arkansas or rather just arrogant.


they lost 17 sec games in a row
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Where'd you get that from? Deflection via deception?


Still waiting on your question. I'd like to answer it.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Miles can't make all the blocks for them.
I think this is why he is at a loss for words when asked how to fix it.
Since game 7, the competition has stepped up a class and the call can't be answered by OL, IMO.

Though not elite, I didn't expect the D to have done as well this far, but without bench time from sustained drives (running), the lack of depth is showing vs power teams.
Posted by NewMoneyTrash
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:48 pm to
You're killing me today Trout.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:51 pm to
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Cam is supposed to recruit the OBs and the best one he has is a guy who can't complete short passes. Look at the guy we missed out on in Mason Rudolph, who is lighting it up at Okie St.


Okay, we missed out on the kid that went to Okie St. Is that Camerons fault or is just that Okie St. was a better fit for him than LSU? Hell, next to nobody knows what is going on in these kids heads before they commit to a program. Gunner Kiel is a perfect example. 99.9% of us thought he would show up, till he announced he was going to Notre Dame.

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This is the same LSU team that didn't allow a sack to Florida. This is the same team that averaged over 5 yards per carry and had 221 rush yards vs. Florida.


Yes it is. Somebody had to coach them up to perform that well against a good Florida team. If we are going to place all the blame for the poor showing the last two games on coaching, we should give the coaches the credit for having the team well prepared to play Florida.

Or, is it a combination of good coaching and good play early in the year, and poor coaching and poor play the last two games? I tend to believe the credit and the blame should be evenly distributed between the coaches and the players.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:52 pm to
I hate Mondays...especially after a loss
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:53 pm to
What's your job title at lsu? Curious.
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:54 pm to
we say the same thing each year.

players change each year, however...

where do you think the constant lies?
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:55 pm to
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What's your job title at lsu?

Is that the question? I didn't see it posted earlier. I do not work at LSU.
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
38482 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:01 pm to
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Is that the question?



Why would I ask you anymore questions when you've pussed out of answering the three I already asked you?

Keep up babe. Or don't.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:02 pm to
I don't claim to be an expert in X's and O's, I just know what I see on the field.

It seems to me that if the opponent has a very good defense -- good players, good coaches (Saban, Smart), and they have a pretty good idea of where you are going to try to run the ball (what holes/gaps) then, they're going to concentrate their players on those holes/gaps.

They can do that, when the opponent (Les Miles, LSU) is predictable.

One offensive lineman cannot block two, or more, defenders.

This is what I think happened in the Ala., and Ark., games. I don't think our offensive linemen were sapped of their talent, like the basketball players in "Space Jam," nor do I think they just decided to stop playing hard.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14058 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:03 pm to
The only questions you asked were about me asking my husband if a dress makes me look fat and if you figured out this thread. I don't see any other questions.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:10 pm to
As I suspected. Guilty of taking the pussy way out.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:11 pm to
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That's not allowed on TD


ask me how I know
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14058 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

(what holes/gaps)
Doesn't explain the grass stains on OL's backsides when they get up off turf 5yds the wrong side of LOS.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22849 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:19 pm to
I'll ask you again since you didn't answer the first time, do you think having players drafted and succeed in the NFL is indicative of talent?
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