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re: Why does everyone assume Brennan is next in line?
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:28 am to TIGRLEE
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:28 am to TIGRLEE
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I and most other LSU fans with two eyes have seen more in 6 quarters from DE proving that, than we have In 16 games from Harris.
compare Harris and Etling's first 6 quarters
Harris has confidence and mental issues right now, I don't think it has anything to do with "football IQ"
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:28 am to slackster
Perrrr form ance perhaps?
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:29 am to TIGRLEE
What happened 2 year ago this week to BH?
Is that part of the first 6 qrters?
Is that part of the first 6 qrters?
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:31 am to TIGRLEE
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What happened a year ago this week to BH?
He went 12/17 and 1 TD and a win?
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Is that part of the first 6 qrters?
no...
even with your edit, that Auburn game was not part of Harris first 6 quarters
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 10:32 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:33 am to slackster
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But Etlings IQ for football is obv > Harris
As measured by...?
It's interesting cause Etling throws better out of our "new spread". Harris hadnt run much of that stuff. They both have struggled out of our I-formation.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:33 am to TIGRLEE
Tigrlee and Semjackass, rank the QBs below as to which you would prefer as LSUs QB. Mett cannot be a choice because it gives you too easy an out.
Jeff Driskel, *****, Oviedo, FL
Braxton Miller, *****, Huber Heights, OH
Kiehl Frazier, *****, Springdale, AR
Teddy Bridgewater, ****, Miami, FL
Jacoby Brissett, ****, Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Jerrard Randall, ****, Hollywood, FL
Marquise Williams, ****, Charlotte, NC
Zach Mettenberger, ****, El Dorado, KS
Cardale Jones, ***, Cleveland, OH
Stephen Rivers, ***, Athens, AL
Justin Worley, ***, Rock Hill, SC
Philip Ely, ***, Tampa, FL
Dak Prescott, ***, Haughton, LA
Jeff Driskel, *****, Oviedo, FL
Braxton Miller, *****, Huber Heights, OH
Kiehl Frazier, *****, Springdale, AR
Teddy Bridgewater, ****, Miami, FL
Jacoby Brissett, ****, Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Jerrard Randall, ****, Hollywood, FL
Marquise Williams, ****, Charlotte, NC
Zach Mettenberger, ****, El Dorado, KS
Cardale Jones, ***, Cleveland, OH
Stephen Rivers, ***, Athens, AL
Justin Worley, ***, Rock Hill, SC
Philip Ely, ***, Tampa, FL
Dak Prescott, ***, Haughton, LA
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:38 am to Salmon
All the bs in this thread has me confused.
What exactly is your point?
I mean for fricks sake, what else do you want out of a qb than what Etling has done?
Was BH not given every chance to keep his job?
Maybe it's just me and I have other stuff currrently going on, but I honestly have no idea WTF your point is.
It's almost like it's just to say opposite and argue with me.
frick
What exactly is your point?
I mean for fricks sake, what else do you want out of a qb than what Etling has done?
Was BH not given every chance to keep his job?
Maybe it's just me and I have other stuff currrently going on, but I honestly have no idea WTF your point is.
It's almost like it's just to say opposite and argue with me.
frick
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:38 am to TIGRLEE
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What exactly is your point?
that there isn't enough data on Etling to really discuss his "football IQ"
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:40 am to Salmon
Geeees, really?
Ok baw.
I'm out.
Ok baw.
I'm out.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:41 am to TIGRLEE
yes really
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:52 am to justustm2
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Note his list of QBs: Mauck. Flynn. Mettenberger. Etling. Brennan. No JR? Scott? Does anyone wonder who these "athletes" are we don't need? Mr. Semjackass, what is it that we on here don't get?
If note: he doesn't want a dual threat, but does want guys who can't land a starting job in the NFL! Lol!!
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:56 am to TIGRLEE
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I mean for fricks sake, what else do you want out of a qb than what Etling has done?
I can't speak for Salmon, but I'd prefer we discuss current players based on quantifiable, tangible data.
The vast majority of this board has praised Etling for using the TE so much more than the QBs before him. The actual data says they represent 9.1% of his targets by my count (11.6% of targets according to an ESPN article). Harris targeted TEs 9.4% of the time in 2015 (10.4% according to the ESPN article) - essentially the same and certainly not discernible to the average viewer. The fact that Etling has provided a spark has wooed viewers into perceiving things that aren't there. Let me be clear - I'm all in with Etling as I would be with any other starting QB. However, I'd prefer to discuss the things he is actually doing rather than some subjective BS like "football IQ" after 6-7 quarters of play.
The thing that really chaps my arse is that Harris's issues are simply explained by shoddy mechanics that result in inconsistent throws, yet people extrapolate that into all kinds of other reasons he has struggled. If he was more accurate he'd still be playing. It isn't a football smarts problem.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:57 am to slackster
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You've never seen Narcisse throw a football so you've got no clue what he can or cannot do
I have seen him throw the ball, not impressed.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:00 am to bencoleman
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I have seen him throw the ball, not impressed.
Fair enough. I believe he'll still be a valuable asset particularly when we don't know what kind of staff we'll have next year. I think the same for Brennan.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:04 am to The Tyger
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I think that Narcisse is the better prospect
So I guy who will have not played since he was 16 is better? And you know this how?
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:20 am to slackster
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The thing that really chaps my arse is that Harris's issues are simply explained by shoddy mechanics that result in inconsistent throws, yet people extrapolate that into all kinds of other reasons he has struggled. If he was more accurate he'd still be playing. It isn't a football smarts problem
You know what chaps my arse? Your constant and overwhelming stupidity.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:57 am to bencoleman
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You know what chaps my arse? Your constant and overwhelming stupidity.
You cannot help it. It isn't enough for someone to say Etling is the better QB thus far. You won't be satisfied unless Harris is buried as well.
I look forward to a comment from you with actual substance.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:08 pm to The Tyger
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the poor history with dual-threat QBs at LSU?
you really didn't need to write anything more than that. YES!!!!! It is because LSU has failed MISERABLY with converting dual threat QB's into Pro-Style QB's. Do these QB names ring a bell to you "Jefferson, Jennings & Harris" how did they do and what style of QB were they. Now do these QB names ring a bell "Flynn, Mettenberger and now Etling" how did they do or currently doing and what style of QB are they? So you see it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out what style QB is successful in Miles offensive scheme and which style of QB isn't successful the statistics don't lie only people do!!!!
Most LSU fans, I am one of them, are tired of Miles and company experimenting with trying to change the dual threat style of the QB's they sign into a pro style QB. They have FAILED miserably at it and should abandon that strategy or it will get them fired. If Miles lasts through this year, and that is still a big IF right now, there is no way in hell he survives another QB transformation if the transformation fails like it did with JJ, Jennings and Harris, NO WAY!!! So for his own job security, if he has any, is to take a pro-style QB "Miles Brennan" and coach him up.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:43 pm to The Tyger
Not me... I'm fully on board the Scott Pain Train, baby!!!! This kid will be lighting up the Death Valley night real soon.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:46 pm to The Tyger
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poor history with dual-threat QBs at LSU?
Think this about sums up most sentiments. I think Narcisse is a great prospect, but Miles has no idea to build an offense around dual-threat QB. It really doesn't help Narcisse is missing almost all of his final 2 years of high school.
Brennan is pretty underrated though. After him showing out this summer, he's just turned it on even higher for the season throwing for over 1600 yards and 18 TD with no interceptions. He hasn't been playing weak teams at all too during that stretch. Oh, and Brennan is pro-style, so there's that.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 12:49 pm
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