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Why Do We Really Want Dual Threat Quarterbacks?

Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:33 pm
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:33 pm
We know that Les prefers them. You would think that Les had an interest in running his quarterback. Yet, at the end of this year we basically did not run any designed qb runs. Earlier this year, we ran them infrequently, but at least still ran them. Why are we recruiting dual threat guys if we aren't going to let them actually run? What is the point?

Brandon Harris was dangerous on the read option earlier this year. Against aggy, he didn't pull the ball a single time. Based on my review of the replay, it appeared that LSU was calling read looking plays (unblocked end) but was not reading him. In other words, Harris was handing the ball regardless of what the end did. Does anyone know for what purpose Les prefers dual threat quarterbacks?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:34 pm to
especially after Metts success. i would think they would stop with the dual threat recruiting
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25093 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:37 pm to
I want to know why we would call read designed plays and instruct the quarterback to hand the ball regardless of what the end does. Notice in the third quarter that the end doesn't even respect the fake any more. He just crashes down the line and makes the tackle. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop, but apparently we preferred Harris hitting guys in their feet and throwing it to the other team instead of him gaining 20 yards on a read keep.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:39 pm to
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TDsngumbo


you on a roll today but i ain't biting. discuss the OP or try your shite on someone else
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:39 pm to
I understand why Les wants a dual threat but we never utilize it. There were so many times this year that we could have run a bootleg or even Harris just keeping it on a scramble. Harris didn't even appear to want to scramble when nobody was open downfield.

Against aTm there were several of the shotgun runs where if Harris had pulled the ball, he had 20 yards of open space. Not once did he make the read, if the play call even allows him to read it and keep it. Who knows.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66418 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:40 pm to
we want mobile QBs

we also want to run read option, harris is just bad at it.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12226 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:41 pm to
When is the last time we had a dual threat?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70898 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:41 pm to
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especially after Metts success. i would think they would stop with the dual threat recruiting



one of, if not the, best year at the QB position in the Miles era

yet somehow we went another direction

who knows
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:41 pm to
Jordan Jefferson and Brandon Harris were top pro style qb's, fwiw.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:41 pm to
It is our system. It is not friendly to a young QB. It takes time to improve. A dual threat QB may not take as many sacks a non mobile QB.

Next year we will see an improved Harris.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25093 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:41 pm to
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we also want to run read option, harris is just bad at it.


That's unequivocally incorrect. Also, read option is one of those things that is most effective in bunches. You need to apply the read pressure to the end time and again to tax him and wear him out. As frequency increases, the utility of a read run scheme increases.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 12:42 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70898 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:43 pm to
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It is our system. It is not friendly to a young QB. It takes time to improve.


perfect for 19-21 year old amateur athletes
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:43 pm to
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Why Do We Really Want Dual Threat Quarterbacks? by therick711
Because if you develop them properly they kick arse in college.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25093 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:44 pm to
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Jordan Jefferson and Brandon Harris were top pro style qb's, fwiw.


Nation's Top Dual Threat QB Set to Visit Auburn

Want to guess who they are talking about there? Also, Harris primarily ran a read/run scheme in high school.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5518 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:46 pm to
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Yet, at the end of this year we basically did not run any designed qb runs. Earlier this year, we ran them infrequently, but at least still ran them.

Brandon Harris was dangerous on the read option earlier this year. Against aggy, he didn't pull the ball a single time. Based on my review of the replay, it appeared that LSU was calling read looking plays (unblocked end) but was not reading him. In other words, Harris was handing the ball regardless of what the end did.
I think Harris got injured in the Alabama game.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12226 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:46 pm to
I would settle for a single threat...
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:46 pm to
That's the biggest mystery of Miles to me. We've never thrived more than when Mett was here, yet he runs from that blueprint yearly. It's his worst issue.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25093 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:47 pm to
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I would settle for a single threat...


I've always said, if you're going to play a quarterback, he should probably be able to pass.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25093 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:47 pm to
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That's the biggest mystery of Miles to me. We've never thrived more than when Mett was here, yet he runs from that blueprint yearly. It's his worst issue.


The mystery is you bring in dual threat guy after dual threat guy, and you don't fricking run them!
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:51 pm to
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especially after Metts success. i would think they would stop with the dual threat recruiting



ive been scratching my head ever since...i just dont understand...the proof is in the pudding with duel threat vs pocket passers at LSU
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