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re: why do some people on here say that Florida

Posted on 6/27/09 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/27/09 at 11:46 pm to
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I am a Chemical Engineer.




I am graduating this coming year.
Posted by LSUGrad78
Member since Jan 2005
426 posts
Posted on 6/27/09 at 11:47 pm to
This is the critical answer. Sometimes prestige does matter, whether we like it or not.
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Like with all those highly prestige universities represented on Wall Street. It matters just long enough until the world humbles you.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/27/09 at 11:49 pm to
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Like with all those highly prestige universities represented on Wall Street. It matters just long enough until the world humbles you.


But who says that all of them get humbled? Wall Street would not continuously take Ivy grads if all of them continued to fail--it would look elsewhere.

For the ones that do fail, there is another brilliant Ivy leaguer, with the passion and drive to succeed that takes their place and becomes successful.

Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 6/27/09 at 11:50 pm to
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Not any more affordable than any other private school in the country. You are looking at ~$40,000 a year to go there.


I am almost positive it is a public university and they have the HOPE scholarship for in state students. It would be like going to an out of state public school. It is affordable if i remember correctly. I worked with a bunch of them during an internship. I would be lying if I said I would choose LSU over GT if the money was the same.
This post was edited on 6/27/09 at 11:51 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/27/09 at 11:52 pm to
If you are from GA, then the HOPE would apply to GT.

However, if you are out of state, GT is no cheaper than any other school.

quote:

Freshman Cost of Attendance for 2009-2010

Georgia Residents
Non-Georgia Residents
Tuition
$6,070
$24,280
Mandatory Student Fees
$1,436
$1,436
Books and Supplies
$1,000
$1,000
Freshman Housing Allowance
$4,874
$4,874
Freshman Meal Plan Allowance
$3,330
$3,330
Personal Expenses
$1,500
$1,500
Average Loan Costs
$120
$120
Total Per Year
(2 semesters)

$18,330
$36,540


That is from their site.
This post was edited on 6/27/09 at 11:56 pm
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 6/27/09 at 11:55 pm to
I looked it up and it is public. It would be pretty shitty if private since GT and Mercer(private) are the only schools with engineering programs in Georgia.
This post was edited on 6/27/09 at 11:56 pm
Posted by LSUGrad78
Member since Jan 2005
426 posts
Posted on 6/27/09 at 11:59 pm to
The Ivys have the opportunity the LSU grads do not (there could be an extremely rare case, but every school could make this claim). Statistics would hold that you need to be at an Ivy to have the opportunity.
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I do agree with that, but they need to add common sense and ethics to the curriculum.

Also, these people do not add value nor create wealth in real terms. Want to know why I am an engineer. Reason is the only true way to create wealth is to manufacture from raw materials or to value add to products.
In the USA we are loosing globally. Too many investment bankers, too many lawyers, too many IT experts. Not enough creativity and manufacturing. That is all going overseas. I license technology and I have been seeing this for 15 years. All we have now is politicians who want to tax production of electricity by means of coal and gas. They don't want to use nuclear and they have no idea how to do it otherwise. Windmills, yeah right!!!! I almost get a nut off everytime I hear this.
Engineers are in very very high demand in the US because students have not gone into this field.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 6/27/09 at 11:59 pm to
Holy shite! There is no cheap choice for an engineering degree in Georgia as Mercer is about $30000+ also. Wow might as well go to Auburn, Miss. St., LSU, Tenn. I don't know how hard it is to get into UF out of state.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:02 am to
I don't think I have ever met an engineering student at LSU who didn't laugh at business classes.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24995 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:09 am to
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I don't think I have ever met an engineering student at LSU who didn't laugh at business classes.



This is probably true. Engineering is one of, if not, the most difficult majors to acquire so I would expect them to 'laugh' at just about every major.

Business has been seen as the 'easy way out' major, but I think it would be foolish to think that there are not brilliant people who major in it.

It is also a major that you can make about as difficult as you would like. Yes, if you stick with marketing then it will be a joke, but the brightest typically go the accounting or finance route, then to graduate school, certification tests, MBA, etc. etc.

I wouldn't really group those two different sets of people together, personally.
Posted by LSUGrad78
Member since Jan 2005
426 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:12 am to
The Ivys have the opportunity the LSU grads do not (there could be an extremely rare case, but every school could make this claim). Statistics would hold that you need to be at an Ivy to have the opportunity.
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Yes, I agree with that one. When I got my MBA I felt like I was back in high school. One teacher did not want us to use a calculator. I asked if I could use a slide rule and not sure if she knew what that was. LOL. I told here that I went to Catholic school and still could see my yellow multiplication card that I memorized. I didn't think math would be an issue.

Also, I remember all those pre-meds struggling in Organic Chemistry.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24995 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:13 am to
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I do agree with that, but they need to add common sense and ethics to the curriculum.



Completely agree.
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Also, these people do not add value nor create wealth in real terms. Want to know why I am an engineer. Reason is the only true way to create wealth is to manufacture from raw materials or to value add to products.
In the USA we are loosing globally. Too many investment bankers, too many lawyers, too many IT experts. Not enough creativity and manufacturing. That is all going overseas. I license technology and I have been seeing this for 15 years. All we have now is politicians who want to tax production of electricity by means of coal and gas. They don't want to use nuclear and they have no idea how to do it otherwise. Windmills, yeah right!!!! I almost get a nut off everytime I hear this.
Engineers are in very very high demand in the US because students have not gone into this field.


I can agree with all of this as well.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24995 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:17 am to
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Yes, I agree with that one. When I got my MBA I felt like I was back in high school. One teacher did not want us to use a calculator. I asked if I could use a slide rule and not sure if she knew what that was. LOL. I told here that I went to Catholic school and still could see my yellow multiplication card that I memorized. I didn't think math would be an issue.


I can't relate to the technology that was available then, but I have had calculus professors not allow us to use calculators during tests. If you know how to work the calculator well enough then it can solve the problem without you having any understanding other than memorizing which buttons to push (or so is the reasoning on the professors end).
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Also, I remember all those pre-meds struggling in Organic Chemistry.



My best friend just finished up Organic--one of the smartest guys I know and to see him struggling with it at times made me realize it really is pretty tough material. He still made an A, but it was one of the first times I had ever really seen him challenged.
This post was edited on 6/28/09 at 12:18 am
Posted by LSUGrad78
Member since Jan 2005
426 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:17 am to
I need a drink and hell I never drink at home. I am leaving for Korea on Wednesday and then from there to Egypt, Turkey, Thailand, China and Japan.

If you want this type of job there is one thing that you need. "A STRONG LIVER". So I need to tune mine up.

Goodnight.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24995 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:19 am to
Enjoy the trips, even if they are for business.

I just got back from Europe; it was a great experience.

Good talking to ya.
Posted by LSUGrad78
Member since Jan 2005
426 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:20 am to
can't relate to the technology that was available then, but I have had calculus professors not allow us to use calculators during tests. If you know how to work the calculator well enough then it can solve the problem without you having any understanding other than memorizing which buttons to push (or so is the reasoning on the professors end).
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Yeah, we never allowed to use calculator or slide rule in calculus. Actually, I really did not have an appreciation for calculus until after I graduated.
Want to know the most useless course one can ever take. 2nd Physical Chemistry. People who really like and understand that are not breathing air on a regular basis.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:22 am to
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If you know how to work the calculator well enough then it can solve the problem without you having any understanding other than memorizing which buttons to push


A TI-89 calculator can solve almost any problem they would put on a Calculus test. I had a friend that actually had one during the class and the teacher let him use it. He barely made a B. i ended up buying one a couple of semesters ago and after having it for about 2 days I called him up to tell him he was a dumb arse for not easily making an A.
Posted by LSUGrad78
Member since Jan 2005
426 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:23 am to
Enjoy the trips, even if they are for business.

I just got back from Europe; it was a great experience.

Good talking to ya.
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Good talking to you too. By the way, one of my very best friends graduated from Rutgers in finance. He is one of the nicest, most intelligent guys I know.
Posted by Acadien
Member since Nov 2008
3571 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:25 am to
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LSUGrad78


You really, really don't want to admit that LSU degree of yours isn't the greatest thing to happen to the work-force since child labors laws.

Get over it. LSU is hot shite in Louisiana, and moderately respected in the rest of the South/country (to a lesser extent). While the quality of the education is debatable, every employer knows how to look up US News & World Report rankings. And it does matter. Don't be a dipshit.
Posted by LSUGrad78
Member since Jan 2005
426 posts
Posted on 6/28/09 at 12:29 am to
Get over it. LSU is hot shite in Louisiana, and moderately respected in the rest of the South/country (to a lesser extent). While the quality of the education is debatable, every employer knows how to look up US News & World Report rankings. And it does matter. Don't be a dipshit.
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Hey young a-hole, I am an employer and I don't have enough time to waste looking at a US News & World report. I spend too much of my spare time bitch slapping people like you. Like I said, get a degree, go to work in the real world and talk to me in 5 years. By the way, if you want an engineering job, don't go to UF. I would not hire your arse.
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