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Why did Hamilton sit the first half?

Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:25 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:25 pm
Can anybody tell me why Trent Johnson sat Hamilton after he picked up his second foul for the whole first half? I've never understood why coaches do this.

Hamilton's going to play at least the same amount of minutes(most likely more) before fouling out or the game ending regardless of what point of the game he plays, and its not like he is more valuable at the end of the game like a point guard might be.
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:28 pm to
19 damn minutes
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:29 pm to
also Eddie starting over Storm Warren is just mind-numbing to me
Posted by tigabait01
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:29 pm to
Fair criticism. However we did get it to 1 with Hamilton out, so it's not like we were playing badly. Being within single digits and him only having 2 at the half wasn't a terrible decision.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:29 pm to
The only time it got close was when he was out.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:29 pm to
He didn't play that well when he was in anyways.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

Can anybody tell me why Trent Johnson sat Hamilton after he picked up his second foul for the whole first half? I've never understood why coaches do this.


It was debated here after the Florida game on both sides but I'm against summarrily sitting a kid after two fouls.

I think J-Ham is smart enought to play with two fouls.

Actually we closed the gap with him out so we got away with it till we zoned too long and let them stretch it right before half.

And then we came out in the second half with no energy or intentsity and it was over in two minutes.
Posted by tigabait01
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:31 pm to
Eddie plays the 3. Storm plays the 4. As slow as Eddie is, Storm's ability to chase a 3 around is minimal.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

Can anybody tell me why Trent Johnson sat Hamilton after he picked up his second foul for the whole first half?


Pretty standard move to protect a player with two fouls in the first half. Hamilton fouled out with 4 min left anyway.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:35 pm to
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He didn't play that well when he was in anyways.


Contrare. He had 7 pts in the first half I think but more importantly he could have put a little more defensive pressure underneath on Jones who scored about 25 ish and Davis who had a quiet 15 ish.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:38 pm to
Defensive pressure? Did you miss UK dunking at will in the 2nd half when Hamilton was in?
This post was edited on 1/28/12 at 7:39 pm
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:39 pm to
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Contrare. He had 7 pts in the first half I think but more importantly he could have put a little more defensive pressure underneath on Jones who scored about 25 ish and Davis who had a quiet 15 ish.


But he played alot in the second half and was a non-factor. Our bigs....all of them, have so many balls that bounce off their hands. Rebounds, loose balls, passes everything. It's maddening.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:42 pm to
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Defensive pressure? Did you miss UK dunking at will in the 2nd half when Hamilton was in?


He was not the only one MIA on the defensive end. I am sure White getting ejected did not help.
Posted by Sheep
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:46 pm to
I think we definitely should have fed the post repeatedly against the BEST COLLEGIATE SHOT BLOCKER EVER.

I don't see how that plan could have failed.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

Pretty standard move to protect a player with two fouls in the first half. Hamilton fouled out with 4 min left anyway.


I'm asking why it is standard.

It is also pretty standard for NBA coaches to not intentionally foul a bad free throw shooter when that team is holding for last shot at the end of a quarter, but that doesn't make it smart.
This post was edited on 1/28/12 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Tiger Ugly
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

think we definitely should have fed the post repeatedly against the BEST COLLEGIATE SHOT BLOCKER EVER.


That guy from Bama ain't as good as Kentucky's guy and he flat out didn't even let J-ham get a shot off, stuffed him straight up about 4 times, without any help.

That was way down the list of issues with today.
Posted by NoMercy
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

The only time it got close was when Anthony Davis was out.


FIFY

Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

I think we definitely should have fed the post repeatedly against the BEST COLLEGIATE SHOT BLOCKER EVER.


JOB3, Warren, and Hamilton all hit shots at a high percentage from the wings today. They did not get many shots however because the revolving door at the scorers table kept interupting any "hot hands"
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

I think we definitely should have fed the post repeatedly against the BEST COLLEGIATE SHOT BLOCKER EVER.

I don't see how that plan could have failed.


A) You still have to try. In the previous game against Miss State they froze Hamilton out as well. I think that going to Hamilton has been ripped out of the play book.

B) Going at the shot blocker once or twice can get that guy in early foul trouble. That seemed to be Kentucky's plan... to go after our best scorer and get some early fouls on him. It seemed like the guards were all too willing to let it happen.
Posted by Sheep
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Posted on 1/28/12 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

That guy from Bama ain't as good as Kentucky's guy and he flat out didn't even let J-ham get a shot off, stuffed him straight up about 4 times, without any help.


That was kind of my point.
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